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Biden will not be a candidate to drive enthusiasm which will drop the voter turn out. I am not saying whether or not that would include me which is entirely beside the point. A Biden nomination will depress voter turn out on the Dem side.

They don't give a schitt

It's not name calling when it's a factual description. Inelegant, but factual. If he bothers you so much, be an adult and put him on ignore. Whining is too much like the tattle tale running to mommy for back up. No pres ever before Trump presented as such an overwhelming threat to national security and the very fabric of this country.

Biden feels like Clinton 2. Should he win the nomination, Democrats, and the country, will regret that choice IMO. Despite the polls, I think he loses to trump in the EC. BTW, I don't travel on 84 and I don't travel into Boise much. I really don't care what Boise does. The bulk of local issues aren't partisan where I'm at and I tend to side with the majority. But none of that is the point. The point is the pres election and the impact of nominating another aging white male moderate. This foray into moral victories and local elections is nothing but a deflection. It amazes me how difficult it is to stay on topic for some people. The topic is Biden.

Where did I ever claim I would not vote on local matters? People jump to conclusions far too easily.

It's not about pity. It's about a broken, fucked up system. I stated a fact. It's the same fact republican voters face in deeply blue states. The system is broken and pity isn't the answer or the point. Typical misogynist response to use loaded and emotional descriptions. I am not interested in pity nor am I sulking or any other emotional descriptors you might want to toss out there. The system is broken and whether I take part in the sham or not makes no difference pm the outcome. I'm also not into "moral victories".

Why the frak does any serious program go after Kiffen?

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No, it isn't. Not with the EC. Unless you live in one of the swing districts in a swing state, it's an exercise in futility. More voters in 2016 did not want trump than did, yet that's who was elected. The system is broken. The GOP wants to keep it broken and they have now stacked the courts to keep it that way. I've spent my life voting to prevent that yet here we are. It's rigged. Bought and paid for by special interest with the SC putting a nice bow on it. And yes, my attitude is pretty fatalistic, I admit that. Between our ineffective government, the war on science, and the climate crises, the future looks pretty grim to me. The human race seems bound and determined to destroy the current ecosystem and we've run out of time to mitigate that. So whether or not I vote in an election with the EC which makes my vote pointless? I'm just not feeling it. I do understand the viewpoints of yourself and the others. It's where I was 4 years ago. Trump's election sucked all the hope out of me.

I live in Idaho. My vote doesn't count so spare me the soap box.

Obviously not trump But as I said, I live in Idaho and my vote doesn't count. And that's true for more people than not given the EC. And if trump is not held accountable for enlisting the aide of foreign governments to help him win, what's the freaking point? I'm disgusted by our leadership and the trump supporters. The SC and their ruling on Citizens United killed this country. Hard to envision it ever turning around.

I don't think dems turned out all that much last go around because everyone thought Hillary had it in the bag. To be perfectly honest, I just won't be all that thrilled voting for another white male and might just skip voting in that case. Everyone knows how I feel about the lying SOB we now have. And if I'm less than motivated with the choices, I probably won't be alone.

That just tells them how to gerrymander the districts.....

That's what they said 4 years ago. How'd that work out? Personally I think we get 4 more years of the small fingered vulgarian. The Republic is dead.

I would suggest the Senate leadership which enables him is just as big a threat.