Scscsc89 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: Indeed, but in the Clinton trial, Rehnquist determined senators are not jurors, but the court itself. Hence, there is a belief that they make the call. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/22/798631219/are-senators-trying-a-president-jurors-clinton-trial-ruling-says-they-are-not Which begs the question; wtf is the CJ's role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scscsc89 Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Does anyone else the whole Bolton thing might be a setup? Dems spend all their political chips getting this one witness & then he testifies that Trump did nothing wrong in his opinion. GOP can say it was a fair trial because they allowed witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 He called it a "drug deal". It would be hard for him to explain that under cross if he about-faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted January 28, 2020 Author Share Posted January 28, 2020 How about, “I don’t recall making that statement.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Did he recall writing a book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBuff Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 If nothing else, this is fantastic press for his book. I’d be surprised if Bolton killed the president. But Bolton was a curious choice in the first place. what a clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 11:07 AM, Scscsc89 said: Does anyone else the whole Bolton thing might be a setup? Dems spend all their political chips getting this one witness & then he testifies that Trump did nothing wrong in his opinion. GOP can say it was a fair trial because they allowed witnesses. I'm thinking Bolton could really backfire on the Dems and in the very end, the votes against having witnesses would come to pass. The question will be will there be Dem votes for not having witnesses? This whole impeachment thing would have been one big waste of time. Just wait until the total cost of the whole thing is made public and the Dems might not be able to call themselves the more fiscally responsible party. Like CRBuff says...one big clown show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 It's only been a waste of time if: You don't believe witnesses and evidence are an important part of a fair trial. You don't believe the American people have a right to know what their president is up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBuff Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Jalapeño, the clown show is more directed at trump. Why in God’s name would he hire Bolton to start? And then once he leaves, like everyone else, trump trashed the very person he hired. What a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 30 minutes ago, CRBuff said: Jalapeño, the clown show is more directed at trump. Why in God’s name would he hire Bolton to start? And then once he leaves, like everyone else, trump trashed the very person he hired. What a mess. "All the best people" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Seriously, take the time to read this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, CRBuff said: Jalapeño, the clown show is more directed at trump. Why in God’s name would he hire Bolton to start? And then once he leaves, like everyone else, trump trashed the very person he hired. What a mess. That is Trump's way of running the show. Ever thought that sometimes being an effective leader also means not being well liked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBuff Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 36 minutes ago, Jalapeno said: That is Trump's way of running the show. Ever thought that sometimes being an effective leader also means not being well liked? Not being liked is one thing. He hired someone that fundamentally disagrees with his outlook on policy. Then he is gone, shockingly, when they have a major disagreement. Sorry, his cabinet has changed at a dizzying pace. It always ends with a twitter tirade talking about what a loser the former cabinet member is. This is leadership? Doesn't sound like a stable genius to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLB Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 10:16 AM, Orange said: Which begs the question; wtf is the CJ's role? You're an attorney and you don't know the answer to this question? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Jalapeno said: I'm thinking Bolton could really backfire on the Dems and in the very end, the votes against having witnesses would come to pass. The question will be will there be Dem votes for not having witnesses? This whole impeachment thing would have been one big waste of time. Just wait until the total cost of the whole thing is made public and the Dems might not be able to call themselves the more fiscally responsible party. Like CRBuff says...one big clown show. In times like these, I think simplifying the problem could be helpful. So: do you think Trump is guilty for something he admitted doing on live television? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HLB Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 First, Bolton calls Trump's phone call with Zelensky as "warm and cordial", and made no mention of Trump withholding aid until an investigation of Biden and his son takes place. Now he's writing a book and wants to make sales, so he reverses his original statement. And Schiff spoke of how horrible Bolton is, and stated that he lacked credibility and has credibility issues. NOW, he wants Bolton to testify as a reliable and credible witness. https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/01/29/apparently-schiff-randomly-decides-when-bolton-lacks-any-credibility-n2560366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted January 31, 2020 Author Share Posted January 31, 2020 Yeah -- it's almost like he should be interviewed under oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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