RogueDuck Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 4 hours ago, PapaG said: Which trades make sense for Cleveland to trade LeBron? Trade LBJ? The only player I'd even considered for him, and he wouldn't be able to carry Cleveland to the finals, is Durant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, RogueDuck said: Trade LBJ? The only player I'd even considered for him, and he wouldn't be able to carry Cleveland to the finals, is Durant. Rather than lose him for nothing ... again? I don't see the Cavs allowing that to happen, and no matter LeBron's feelings toward Gilbert, he's not going to fuck over Cleveland again. Plus a trade makes more sense for him anyhow since he can be traded where he wants and not have to worry about that team clearing cap space to sign him after the season because they'd have his Bird rights. Bug's Laker scenario seems plausible. LeBron's never got to play with a pass-first PG like Lonzo Ball. Should extend his career not having to drive from the perimeter to the rim with the ball as often when a pass from Ball as a cutter is much less taxing on the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 Quite a bit of noise about the Celtics moving a package including Al Horford for James already surfacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, PapaG said: Quite a bit of noise about the Celtics moving a package including Al Horford for James already surfacing. That would barely keep the Cavs as a top 5 eastern team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, RogueDuck said: That would barely keep the Cavs as a top 5 eastern team. If he's really leaving and Kyrie wants out soon, they aren't winning a title this year anyhow. It would be foolish to let him go and get nothing in return. At least this time it seems he's giving Cleveland a head's up to get something of value. Top 5 this year? Gilbert should be more worried about the next ten years than having a superstar halfway out th door this year who doesn't like his PG and hates his owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, PapaG said: If he's really leaving and Kyrie wants out soon, they aren't winning a title this year anyhow. It would be foolish to let him go and get nothing in return. At least this time it seems he's giving Cleveland a head's up to get something of value. Top 5 this year? Gilbert should be more worried about the next ten years than having a superstar halfway out th door this year who doesn't like his PG and hates his owner. What's better, trade for a bunch of second rate players, who basically make Cleveland the Portland of the east. Or take your chances building from the bottom again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, RogueDuck said: What's better, trade for a bunch of second rate players, who basically make Cleveland the Portland of the east. Or take your chances building from the bottom again? The only reason they aren't still at the bottom is because LeBron is from Akron. There was no rebuild, even with Kyrie and Trystan Thompson, they flat-out sucked until LeBron saved them and got Kevin Love onboard, too. Building from the bottom after he left had them a joke franchise for four years until he returned home to win a title from Cleveland elevating a bad-to-mediocre team to a title by recruiting players. That doesn't seem like a practical rebuilding plan to try and repeat. Who the fuck wants to play in Cleveland unless you are from the area? Portland IS their ceiling unless another Top 5 all-time player decides he wants to spend 4 years in Cleveland. They're not going to compete for titles in the future barring a miracle, but they'd better be competitive to keep their fans. Especially since Gilbert is going to be blamed for running out LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 tampering in the nba is weird because free agency is like 90% tampering these days, only we're told it can only go in one direction (player --> player, or perhaps player --> team). but once a team goes up to a player and says "hey, sup?" suddenly a high crime has been committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/900126892954705926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 That's not a real account, Don. Rumors are real by Woj though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, PapaG said: Send Lebron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, PapaG said: That's not a real account, Don. Rumors are real by Woj though. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 hats off to kyrie, beating lebron to the punch and getting the hell out of cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaG Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 minute ago, glduck said: hats off to kyrie, beating lebron to the punch and getting the hell out of cleveland. Sounds like the Nets are involved and Cavs may get what will likely be a Top 3 pick. Thomas/Crowder/LeBron/Love/Thompson still wins the East, IMO, and even if James leaves a Top 3 pick from Brooklyn is nice compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mano Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20421382/cleveland-cavaliers-send-kyrie-irving-boston-celtics-deal-including-isaiah-thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hail Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, PapaG said: Sounds like the Nets are involved and Cavs may get what will likely be a Top 3 pick. Thomas/Crowder/LeBron/Love/Thompson still wins the East, IMO, and even if James leaves a Top 3 pick from Brooklyn is nice compensation. They might still win the east but before this trade, there was no question they would win the east. Now, it's much less of a given IMO. Also, Brian Windhorst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 it's certainly a respectable haul for cleveland. that top 5 pick is huge, and will come in handy when lebron and isaiah thomas both bolt in FA after next season and the cavs start collecting lottery picks like candy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 assuming lonzo pans out, and magic johnson didn't royally screw the lakers w/ paul george, LA is the obvious 2018 landing spot for bron bron, but... i'm not saying its the smartest move to a championship, but both lebron and chris paul are restricted after 2018. the two of them are BFF with carmelo. if LA doesn't pan out, i wouldn't be surprised if all three land with the knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Opening night (October 17) for the NBA is just so sizzlin': Celtics @ Cavs Rockets @ Warriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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