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Internet search gives these other names:

Brian Kelly

hue Jackson

jon Gruden 

jeff fisher

bob Stoops 

Kyle Whittingham

James Franklin

bill O’Brien

Justin Fuente

Pat Fitzgerald

Mike Gundy

Troy Calhoun

Dan Mullen

Seriously, I’ve never heard of some of these guys.

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cristobal appears to have near unanimous support from the team and the vocal recruits on twitter.

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18 minutes ago, glduck said:

cristobal appears to have near unanimous support from the team and the vocal recruits on twitter.

Maybe we haven't gone through anything like this, but I've never seen a unanimous backing of a assistant before.  Every recruit.wants MC as the head coach Nd lots of the players.  

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indeed. and i know mullens can’t base a long-term decision based on a current crop of players but that’s got to weigh heavily in his favor. i’ve noticed several of the east coast kids taggart brought over (and perhaps the guy it like hurt the most to lose, jordan scott) are vocally all in on cristobal, too.

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I think Oregon is better off without Taggert, he was going to be a 9 win coach in our league and while that's not bad, Oregon can do better.  Schematically he's terrible, he would have been exposed in no time in our league. He catches a break in the ACC, because it's a weak league overall, so he will have breaks from week to week, and have better talent than almost everyone other than Clemson. But I'd expect him to be a DB coach at Michigan in about 4 years.

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20 minutes ago, MrBug708 said:

I think Oregon is better off without Taggert, he was going to be a 9 win coach in our league and while that's not bad, Oregon can do better.  Schematically he's terrible, he would have been exposed in no time in our league. He catches a break in the ACC, because it's a weak league overall, so he will have breaks from week to week, and have better talent than almost everyone other than Clemson. But I'd expect him to be a DB coach at Michigan in about 4 years.

Agreed, particularly with that last part which is why good for him to get out and get mo money while he can. Also why I will miss him.

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24 minutes ago, MrBug708 said:

I think Oregon is better off without Taggert, he was going to be a 9 win coach in our league and while that's not bad, Oregon can do better.  Schematically he's terrible, he would have been exposed in no time in our league. He catches a break in the ACC, because it's a weak league overall, so he will have breaks from week to week, and have better talent than almost everyone other than Clemson. But I'd expect him to be a DB coach at Michigan in about 4 years.

I expect he'll win 9 games next year and somehow land a NFL job.  And then in 4 years after that he'll be back with Harbaugh some place.

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i know the easy thing to do right now is hate on the guy, but i don't even know how you begin to gauge what kind of coach he'd be in the pac-12 long term. literally all he's ever done as a HC in college is take over a dumpster fire situation, turn the program back to the realm of respectability, and leave. there's literally zero evidence on hand for sustained, or lack thereof, success.

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15 hours ago, Downthefield said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I get the feeling Helton is far from the best USC could have gotten.  Instead, it looks like they took the easy way out rather than to work hard and dig deep.

He's about to lead USC to their second-consecutive big-6 bowl (in his 2nd year), and he has a Rose Bowl win under his belt.

Outside of Tuscaloosa, no one really does better than that on a regular basis, anywhere.

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15 hours ago, Scscsc89 said:

Internet search gives these other names:

Brian Kelly

hue Jackson

jon Gruden 

jeff fisher

bob Stoops 

Kyle Whittingham

James Franklin

bill O’Brien

Justin Fuente

Pat Fitzgerald

Mike Gundy

Troy Calhoun

Dan Mullen

Seriously, I’ve never heard of some of these guys.

The only guy I don't know where thry coach now is BOB, but I believe he's in the NFL. Everyone else is your usual suspects. The biggest unknown is probably Calhoun and isn't he Air Force?

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You didn't know that Bill O'Brien coaches the Texans?  You seem like a guy clued in to football...

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23 minutes ago, Orange said:

You didn't know that Bill O'Brien coaches the Texans?  You seem like a guy clued in to football...

I couldn't recall the exact team. My NFL fandom is limited due to a lack of a team.

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19 hours ago, Downthefield said:

I just have to say this.  I think it's great for the Pac-12 when Oregon is racing hot, gaining national attention with the outstanding play on the field, turning heads from Miami to Chicago to Houston.  However, none of these candidates look like the coach who will bring them back to that big-boy level.  I would have thought, with the open wallet, great facilities, and support from the top, Duck leadership would be shooting a lot higher on their job candidates.

I'm not sure where you think Oregon should be aiming. I think we can take Dabo, Nick and Urban off the table, and Petersen and Shaw aren't going anywhere. Who should Oregon be looking at? Belichick? Carroll?

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45 minutes ago, Quack 12 said:

I'm not sure where you think Oregon should be aiming. I think we can take Dabo, Nick and Urban off the table, and Petersen and Shaw aren't going anywhere. Who should Oregon be looking at? Belichick? Carroll?

Personally, I would call Pat Fitzgerald at Northwestern. Given what he has been able to accomplish with limited resources, he could potentially really grow at Oregon. He might be a lifer at Northwestern though.

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Why is Wilcox even on the short list?

The Ducks passed on him as a DC in 2013 and 2015 but now they supposedly think he's a top choice for a HC in 2018 after a 5-7 campaign?  

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we can blame 2014 and 2016 on the woeful swing-and-misses by mark helfrich. i think he thought it was pellum's "turn" when allioti retired, and then he thought he was making a statement by hiring a former HC to be his DC. oh, helf. adorable, really, if it wasn't so painfully sad...

 

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19 hours ago, MrBug708 said:

That might be the worst reason ever to hire a coach, and I'm pretty sure the OregonAD knows it

Well, he's a proven recruiter and has HC experience, so I'm sold on him.

Taggart was the Hype Guy of the program, and I did like that energy he brought, but Cristobal and Leavitt were the only reason Taggart didn't go 2-10, because with last year's defense, that's what Slick Willie would have been staring at in the face.  I'd also like to see what Cristobal could do with a larger imprint on the offense, because Slick Willie's offense without Herbert was unwatchable.

 

 

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1 hour ago, All Hail said:

Why is Wilcox even on the short list?

The Ducks passed on him as a DC in 2013 and 2015 but now they supposedly think he's a top choice for a HC in 2018 after a 5-7 campaign?  

Solely because of his Oregon roots, which run deep.  I'd be shocked if it's him, though.  Plus it would be hypocritical for UO to poach Wilcox after one year at Cal considering how Mullens shit all over Taggart in the presser earlier this week.

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On 12/6/2017 at 5:11 PM, MrBug708 said:

Sucks for the kids but Troy Dye committed to Helfrich, and his brother is only going because Troy has outkicked the coverage on his skillset. How many kids actually committed and enrolled at Oregon when Taggert was coach? 10?

 

You might want to fact check the rest of your post, naturally.

First of all, Bug, it doesn't matter who recruited Dye.  He and his family believe Taggart lied to their faces, and I'm guessing the dad part has to do with Travis.  What Helfrich has to do with that, only your bitter little mind running this little tiny website knows.

 

Secondly, mybad, it's 4 teams in 6 years, and still only coached one bowl game.

2012 Western Kentucky and then USF before Bowl season

2013 USF

2014  USF

2015 USF

2016 USF

2017 Oregon and FSU before Bowl game

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Orange said:

He's about to lead USC to their second-consecutive big-6 bowl (in his 2nd year), and he has a Rose Bowl win under his belt.

Outside of Tuscaloosa, no one really does better than that on a regular basis, anywhere.

He lost to Notre Dame by 124 points with a #1 overall NFL pick at QB and has more talent on his roster by far than any other Pac 12 team.

If Darnold leaves, next year we will see if Helton can coach.

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9 minutes ago, PapaG said:

First of all, Bug, it doesn't matter who recruited Dye.  He and his family believe Taggart lied to their faces, and I'm guessing the dad part has to do with Travis.  What Helfrich has to do with that, only your bitter little mind running this little tiny website knows.

 

Secondly, mybad, it's 4 teams in 6 years, and still only coached one bowl game.

2012 Western Kentucky and then USF before Bowl season

2013 USF

2014  USF

2015 USF

2016 USF

2017 Oregon and FSU before Bowl game

 

 

 

If he's talkin about Travis, let's be honest, he was going to Oregon if Keith gilberson was the coach. I get he's upset but Taggert didn't sign any of the Dye kids

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