glduck Posted February 8, 2019 Author Share Posted February 8, 2019 Yeah. The "he'd have it better off here" argument is used a lot, and sometimes it's absolutely true, but the ego's on these coaches, man. If he's one of those guys who gets off on comparing himself and the program he's running to Duke and Carolina and whatnot, a lot of the common sense reasons for staying get thrown out the window. The Pac-12 being a JV league isn't helping. Of course I don't think it'll happen, but some people are throwing around Dana Altman-to-Nebraska because of his Creighton ties on the basis that the B1G is so far ahead of where the Pac-12 is. We're two seasons removed from a Final 4, and Nebraska is the only P5 (or whatever) school to never win an NCAA Tournament game (I think). Nebraska basketball poaching anybody's coach is ludicrous, but that's how bad the conference image is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row Z Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 38 minutes ago, Downthefield said: You're right. If he's not up to the challenge of a big-time blue-blood program, he should stay right where he is. However, you may be underestimating Hopkins' willingness to swim in the deep water. True ... if he wants to compete at the top level, the ACC offers an immediate comparison against true blue bloods, even if Syracuse is not quite at the level of a Duke, or UNC. Counterpoint: stay at UW and become the husky version of Lute Olson or Mark Few. Both of those coaches created new powers where neither was at that level before. That would have some appeal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row Z Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 54 minutes ago, glduck said: Of course I don't think it'll happen, but some people are throwing around Dana Altman-to-Nebraska because of his Creighton ties on the basis that the B1G is so far ahead of where the Pac-12 is. We're two seasons removed from a Final 4, and Nebraska is the only P5 (or whatever) school to never win an NCAA Tournament game (I think). Nebraska basketball poaching anybody's coach is ludicrous, but that's how bad the conference image is right now. There is no way Altman is considering leaving for Nebraska ... no f'ing way. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastFan Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, glduck said: The Pac-12 being a JV league isn't helping. Of course I don't think it'll happen, but some people are throwing around Dana Altman-to-Nebraska because of his Creighton ties on the basis that the B1G is so far ahead of where the Pac-12 is. We're two seasons removed from a Final 4, and Nebraska is the only P5 (or whatever) school to never win an NCAA Tournament game (I think). Nebraska basketball poaching anybody's coach is ludicrous, but that's how bad the conference image is right now. I sure don't see what the attraction would be for Altman in Lincoln. Sure, he's a Nebraska boy, but he must know that even with excellent Husker facilities, Lincoln doesn't compare to Eugene. I'd expect that if Altman were to leave, it would be to a school that treats basketball with high respect, not as a occasional diversion until spring football practice. If you look around the Pac-12, it's easy to see some coaches who might jump at other opportunities if they were to occur. Hurley to any big-name east coast team would be likely, someplace like Pitt or Miami or Maryland. Krystkowiak at any of the Cali schools could happen. Boyle would love to get back to where he played and was a star, at Lawrence. And Miller you could see turning his back on the NCAA and heading to an NBA team. As for Jones and Enfield and Kent and Tinkel, there probably wouldn't be many opportunities. Haase is probably comfortable where he is. Back to Hopkins, let's not overstate the bar for success at Syracuse. Since joining the ACC, Boeheim has had one final four; one sweet 16; one round of 32; one NIT; and one "not invited." Not all that "can't compete with that." In 43 years of coaching, he's had just one national championship. The bottom line -- at Syracuse, the basketball coach is a god, while football is the occasional diversion. And Hopkins is loved there already. And remember -- football will always be king at Washington, unlike Gonzaga or Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row Z Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Downthefield said: Back to Hopkins, let's not overstate the bar for success at Syracuse. Since joining the ACC, Boeheim has had one final four; one sweet 16; one round of 32; one NIT; and one "not invited." Not all that "can't compete with that." In 43 years of coaching, he's had just one national championship. The bottom line -- at Syracuse, the basketball coach is a god, while football is the occasional diversion. And Hopkins is loved there already. And remember -- football will always be king at Washington, unlike Gonzaga or Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 hours ago, row Z said: Good point, the offense has not been that great under Hopkins. I hope that means that UCLA is not looking poach him ... I dont think either are a good fit. If we are trying to steal a second year coach in conference who hasn't ever made the tournament as the main coach (Boeheim not there withstanding), we are digging at the bottom of the bucket. It's not to say he's not good enough, but the situation would look pretty awful from the outside. It's like people think Hurley is a candidate at ASU because he beat Kansas once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted February 9, 2019 Author Share Posted February 9, 2019 To be fair to Hurley, he’s beaten Kansas twice. HIRE HIM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 That was a garbage ending for a terribly coached program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mano Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, MrBug708 said: That was a garbage ending for a terribly coached program So, you enjoyed the 22 point comeback in the last 12 minutes too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chile_Ute Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 First time Utes have won all 4 Cali programs on the road. With that said, still looking for consistency. We are good or hot garbage. Sometimes all in the same game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glduck Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 contract extension for kent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastFan Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Current NET rankings (the tool used by the selection committee): 31. Washington 70. Oregon 72. Arizona State 80. Colorado 84. Arizona 90. (Edit) Oregon State 94. Utah 95. USC 98. Stanford 104. UCLA 177. Washington State 264. California As it stands, unless Washington loses in the Pac-12 tourney and somebody else gets the auto-invite, the conference looks to have only one team get invited to the NCAA tourney. Somebody else needs to not only get hot (a number of Pac-12 teams have on occasion), but to stay hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 WSU THE HOTTEST NOW! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Downthefield said: Current NET rankings (the tool used by the selection committee): 31. Washington 70. Oregon 72. Arizona State 80. Colorado 84. Arizona 90. Arizona State 94. Utah 95. USC 98. Stanford 104. UCLA 177. Washington State 264. California As it stands, unless Washington loses in the Pac-12 tourney and somebody else gets the auto-invite, the conference looks to have only one team get invited to the NCAA tourney. Somebody else needs to not only get hot (a number of Pac-12 teams have on occasion), but to stay hot. Poor Oregon State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Downthefield said: Current NET rankings (the tool used by the selection committee): 31. Washington 70. Oregon 72. Arizona State 80. Colorado 84. Arizona 90. (Edit) Oregon State 94. Utah 95. USC 98. Stanford 104. UCLA 177. Washington State 264. California Man — we are going to own the NIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastFan Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 54 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: Man — we are going to own the NIT. Four Pac-12 teams in Madison Square Garden. Manhattan is ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 LSU just beat Kentucky on an obvious offensive goal tend that wasn’t called by......... former Duck Kavel Bigby-Williams. Shit officiating latches on and follows anything the Pac-12 touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Off topic but fuck Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frito Bandito Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Beavs sweep ducks for the first time in forever. With the loss of Bol Bol the ducks have little margin for error. Meanwhile Oregon State is healthy and experienced. Still a long way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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