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Damn conservative liars at CNN.  Indeed, 2+2 = 4 AND 3+1 = 4 at the same damn time.  \_(ツ)_/¯  As Delta variant cases mount one can only hope we see some movement in both groups.  Unenlightened self-interest seems to guide the young so I have more hope in them than I do the ideologically locked in.  I’ve got nephews I love that won’t get vaxed and am trying gentle persuasion, it’s tough to talk about without provoking their egos.

 

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Your missing the variable of young and healthy not getting severe cases which is exactly why they have low vax rates.  They typically don’t get hospitalized or die.  They are primarily spreaders exactly because they appear healthy, don’t get tested unless have serious symptoms and often don’t know they are infected.  Every time the virus moves from one person to another it has an opportunity to mutate.  Transmission is more dangerous to society than hospitalizations or deaths because mutations can render vaccines less or even ineffective.  You can thank me for pointing out the variable you missed.

The good news is they are making progress, now 42% of 18-25 and 47% of 25-39 are vaxed, but still the two lowest vax rates of all adult age groups.

There is also movement among GOPers:

[From WAPO] The Monmouth University poll showed 26 percent of Republicans saying they probably would never get vaccinated — down from 43 percent in April and 36 percent in March.

Finally, one can expect red states to have more cases than blue because they have both large numbers of unvaxed right wingers and large numbers of young adults, both the problematic groups while blue states have far fewer of the GOP anti-vaxers.

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19 minutes ago, KUGRDON said:

Your missing the variable of young and healthy not getting severe cases which is exactly why they have low vax rates.  They typically don’t get hospitalized or die.  They are primarily spreaders exactly because they appear healthy, don’t get tested unless have serious symptoms and often don’t know they are infected.  Every time the virus moves from one person to another it has an opportunity to mutate.  Transmission is more dangerous to society than hospitalizations or deaths because mutations can render vaccines less or even ineffective.  You can thank me for pointing out the variable you missed.

The good news is they are making progress, now 42% of 18-25 and 47% of 25-39 are vaxed, but still the two lowest vax rates of all adult age groups.

There is also movement among GOPers:

[From WAPO] The Monmouth University poll showed 26 percent of Republicans saying they probably would never get vaccinated — down from 43 percent in April and 36 percent in March.

Finally, one can expect red states to have more cases than blue because they have both large numbers of unvaxed right wingers and large numbers of young adults, both the problematic groups while blue states have far fewer of the GOP anti-vaxers.

Jesus fuck you're dense.

18-25 year-olds couldn't get a shot if they wanted one until May.  Then it's 6 weeks before they're fully protected.  That, combined with proven, statistical rendering that red states, with anti-vax ideology is the single biggest factor affecting who is vaccinated, makes it pretty clear that it's not a simple case of "the youth don't care."

Moreover, whether a 12-18-year-old is vaccinated depends entirely on their parents' willingness to get them vaccinated, which is controlled by the ideology of the parent (which, as we have seen, is dictated by whether they're a GQP nut or not).

All of these statistical facts beat the shit out of your quick snapshot of a CNN crawl. 

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I’ve always excluded under 18.

Almost everywhere opened up vaccines to all adults in April.  

vaccinations are much easier to get in many more places now than they were in March and April.  Here you don’t even have to have an appointment, just walk into a pharmacy.

It is not as simple as young adults don’t care, but they are a very problematic group which the data clearly demonstrates.  Precisely why CNN, WAPO and others are finally facing up to despite their liberal bias.

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48 minutes ago, KUGRDON said:

Your missing the variable of young and healthy not getting severe cases which is exactly why they have low vax rates.  They typically don’t get hospitalized or die.  They are primarily spreaders exactly because they appear healthy, don’t get tested unless have serious symptoms and often don’t know they are infected.  Every time the virus moves from one person to another it has an opportunity to mutate.  Transmission is more dangerous to society than hospitalizations or deaths because mutations can render vaccines less or even ineffective.  You can thank me for pointing out the variable you missed.

The good news is they are making progress, now 42% of 18-25 and 47% of 25-39 are vaxed, but still the two lowest vax rates of all adult age groups.

There is also movement among GOPers:

[From WAPO] The Monmouth University poll showed 26 percent of Republicans saying they probably would never get vaccinated — down from 43 percent in April and 36 percent in March.

Finally, one can expect red states to have more cases than blue because they have both large numbers of unvaxed right wingers and large numbers of young adults, both the problematic groups while blue states have far fewer of the GOP anti-vaxers.


After doubling down on your bad math at the start, you started to get it in your last paragraph there.

With the concession that young people *in fact* exist in all 50 states (“X”) you’ve successfully separated the constant from the differing variables of states that do and do not subscribe to anti-vaccination rhetoric. Since states that have taken an anti-vaccination (er, “personal freedom”) stance happen to dominate the top half of hospitalization and death lists, you cannot arrive at the same conclusion (“4”) for two different equations because if 2 + X = 4 then neither 1 + X nor 3 + X can = 4.

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1 hour ago, KUGRDON said:

Pointless.  Maybe at some time you all can accept the data that clearly show two deeply problematic low vax groups.  The same problem existed in the social distancing era.  😎

Keep defending your boy.

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17 hours ago, KUGRDON said:

You realize Harlem isn't the Mississippi Delta, or rural Texas, right?

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2018/01/10/261048/researchers-find-african-americans-are-less-likely-than-other-texans-to-have-photo-id/

But there is something of a mystery at the heart of the voter ID cases: how many Texans actually lack the documents required to cast a ballot in the state, and who are they? Now, two Justice Department expert witnesses have come up with an algorithm that may provide answers.

Eitan Hersh is a political science professor at Tufts University, and one of the algorithm's developers. He says the DOJ asked to determine how many Texans don't have identification that would allow them to vote under the law, as well as the racial composition of that group.

Hersh and his colleagues matched the list of registered Texas voters to every other kind of list that included ID information.

"For every registered voter we matched them to a database possessing drivers' license holders and concealed-carry handgun license holders, passport holders, etc." Hersh says.

Hersh says the study assumed that a person without a match did not have the ID needed to vote. The study found that five percent of Texans didn't have a form of ID that would allow them to vote under the current law.

"Of those who don't have IDs, minority voters, particularly African-Americans, were less likely to possess a photo ID," Hersh says.

He says that Latinos were less likely to have ID than whites, but more likely than African-Americans to have one.

https://www.wired.com/story/voter-id-law-algorithm/

 

 

Now let's talk about how they eliminated drop boxes in Harris County, while making them plentiful in white, rural counties....

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/27/texas-voting-elections-mail-in-drop-off/

After Harris and Travis counties opened 12 and four drop-off sites at county clerk offices, respectively, the governor issued a new order Oct. 1 allowing counties just one drop-off location each. 

 

But hey, this is nothing compared to some neckbeard's on-the-street interview with 8 people.

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