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On 9/19/2021 at 7:30 PM, azgreg said:

This is the worst OL I've ever seen at Arizona since I started paying attention to them in 1981.

NAU travels to Northern Colorado this week.  If UNC wins, maybe they'll cancel the UA-CU game since CU already beat UNC 35-7.

At least CU basketball practice begins in 10 days...same for UA basketball?

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On 9/19/2021 at 6:33 PM, Jalapeno said:

NAU travels to Northern Colorado this week.  If UNC wins, maybe they'll cancel the UA-CU game since CU already beat UNC 35-7.

At least CU basketball practice begins in 10 days...same for UA basketball?

The Arizona / Colorado game might go down as the ugliest game in league history.

 

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We lost for one major reason, we couldnt run the ball.

It wasn’t DTRs fault, he didn’t play well and he’s clearly never going to get to the stage of development that elite QBs achieve, but he made plays when we needed them.

Yes the cushion by the DBs was a problem but we still could have overcome it. Cota (who is absolutely useless) had a fumble and it was big, but not fatal. A litany of other issues, which were bad but not insurmountable.

But we lost because we couldn’t run the ball against a stacked box, our center was absolute dog$h!t in diagnosing and getting to his blocks, and the staff never adjusted off the stupid bunch and attached TE personnel.

I’ve said before that Chip doesn’t use TE personnel packages well. Dulcich will not block, period, so the way Chip needed to counter the 8/9 many boxes was by using Dulcich as a WR, in an extended slot, using 3x1 formations, pushing the receivers out to the numbers, and forcing FSU to spread out.

That would have opened lanes for Zach and Britain, and it would have made life easier for 64 inside against their 1-gap DL scheme.

But we decided to stay in bunch all night, play them in a phone booth, and let them shut down the run game.

We probably made this decision because it allowed for the deep ball and big play to be there a lot. But those are quick strikes and even though we hit some, as the game wore on it was evident we needed to hold onto the ball on offense and put sustained drives together and give the D a rest, not score in 3 minute or less, 6 play drives.

In other words we played into their game plan by scoring quickly. If we run the ball, control the clock, we out-physical them and in the end win the game handily.

DeBoer is really good. Give him and their staff a lot of credit.

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On 9/19/2021 at 7:29 PM, dtd said:

@Orange You want to take this one?

lol, oh how to choose.

We talking history of any iteration of Pac-10?  @Quack 12 might need to give us a primer on the Toilet Bowl.  0-0 tie in the rain, but I was too busy on swing sets and teeter-totters in 1983.

Otherwise, any, single Beaver game from 1990 - 1996 will suffice.

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On 9/19/2021 at 8:37 PM, MrBug708 said:

We lost for one major reason, we couldnt run the ball.

It wasn’t DTRs fault, he didn’t play well and he’s clearly never going to get to the stage of development that elite QBs achieve, but he made plays when we needed them.

Yes the cushion by the DBs was a problem but we still could have overcome it. Cota (who is absolutely useless) had a fumble and it was big, but not fatal. A litany of other issues, which were bad but not insurmountable.

But we lost because we couldn’t run the ball against a stacked box, our center was absolute dog$h!t in diagnosing and getting to his blocks, and the staff never adjusted off the stupid bunch and attached TE personnel.

I’ve said before that Chip doesn’t use TE personnel packages well. Dulcich will not block, period, so the way Chip needed to counter the 8/9 many boxes was by using Dulcich as a WR, in an extended slot, using 3x1 formations, pushing the receivers out to the numbers, and forcing FSU to spread out.

That would have opened lanes for Zach and Britain, and it would have made life easier for 64 inside against their 1-gap DL scheme.

But we decided to stay in bunch all night, play them in a phone booth, and let them shut down the run game.

We probably made this decision because it allowed for the deep ball and big play to be there a lot. But those are quick strikes and even though we hit some, as the game wore on it was evident we needed to hold onto the ball on offense and put sustained drives together and give the D a rest, not score in 3 minute or less, 6 play drives.

In other words we played into their game plan by scoring quickly. If we run the ball, control the clock, we out-physical them and in the end win the game handily.

DeBoer is really good. Give him and their staff a lot of credit.

 

The one criticism of DTR I have are some of the inexplicable unforced fumbles. Is the guy eating fried chicken and buttered popcorn on the sidelines? For God's sake, get the guy some pine tar or stickum.

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On 9/21/2021 at 7:43 AM, Orange said:

29 points and it goes into overtime?  lol, that's adorable.

Try 11 turnovers and zero points in a rainy, 1983 civil war.

 

In terms of game quality Toilet Bowl.  In terms of match-up, Crapple Cup.  The Toilet Bowl had teams that combined for 6 wins and 4 PAC wins and neither team could claim worst team in the conference (Stanford, who both Toilet bowl teams beat by more than 1 score).  The Crapple Cup had two teams that managed only 1 win (vs Portland St).

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