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Mano Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 By all reports, Utah RB Micah Bernard will be starting at a CB spot due to everyone else being injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 An overwhelming Utah crowd in attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 This has a lot of 1999 Rose Bowl feel to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Pac-12 is too physical for Ohio State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Covey having himself a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan209 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 12/24/2021 at 4:29 AM, HLB said: Bowl ties in the PAC12 .... Outside of the Rose Bowl, does anyone really care? All of other PAC12 bowl affiliations can just as well be called The Always Bowl, The Tena Intimae Bowl, the Vagisil Bowl, The Neueve Bowl, The Kotex Bowl, and the Summer's Eve Bowl. Numbers don't lie. During the CFP era, in years when the Rose Bowl is not a semi-final/national championship game it is the most-watched bowl game. In 2015 it overtook the Fiesta, Sugar, and Peach Bowls as the most-watched NY6 bowl games despite having Stanford and Iowa represent the PAC-12/B1G conferences and are not known for having massive fan bases like Ohio State, Notre Dame, or even Michigan/UF in the Citrus Bowl that year. In 2016 the USC/Penn State Rose Bowl game once again outdrew the other non-semifinal NY6 games Sugar (OU/Auburn), Cotton (Wisconsin/W. Michigan), and Orange (FSU/Michigan) and the numbers weren't even close. In 2018 the traditional B1G/PAC-12 matchup included Ohio State/Washington that drew 16.781M viewers while the Sugar (Texas/UGA) drew 13.298M, Fiesta (LSU/UCF) drew 8.471M viewers and the Peach (Florida-Michigan) game drew 8.366M viewers. Literally doubled viewership compared to mighty SEC powers like LSU, Florida, Georgia and soon-to-be SEC member Texas. In 2019, the Oregon/Wisconsin matchup drew in 16.30M viewers while other NY6 matchups didn't really come that close either. Sugar (UGA/Baylor) 10.22M, Cotton (PSU/Memphis) 6.22M, Orange (Florida/UVA) 6.07M viewers. Some of these are practically home games (Georgia/Florida). I guess they could have been at the game, but that doesn't explain the poor showing in viewership compared to the Rose that also seats more fans. Even the Alabama/Michigan Citrus bowl game managed to outperform the other NY6 games, minus the Rose Bowl with 14M viewers. When looking at the years when the Rose Bowl was a semi-final game the numbers get a little interesting as well. In 2014 The FSU/Oregon game drew 28.16M fans meanwhile the OSU/Alabama Sugar Bowl drew in 28.28M viewers, which is even despite FSU/Oregon not having arguably not as massive followings as OSU/Alabama. In 2017 the Georgia/Oklahoma Rose Bowl game drew in 27.913M viewers while the Alabama/Clemson Sugar Bowl was a little short of that at 21.473M viewers. Now, I get that in 2020 COVID affected a lot and even caused the Rose Bowl to be moved to Texas. However, the Rose Bowl had 18.89M viewers and managed to be outperformed, slightly, by the Sugar Bowl (OSU/Clemson) with 19.15M viewers but both games managed to outperform the Alabama/OSU national championship game with 18.65M viewers. My long drawn-out point is that the Rose Bowl game is consistently the most-watched non-semifinal NY6 bowl game and has the potential to outperform the other semi-final game and even the national championship game. So to say that nobody outside of the PAC-12 cares to watch the game simply isn't true. 2014: Wednesday, December 31 5.0 8.94M 8:00 PM Miss. State/Georgia Tech Orange Bowl ESPN 4.6 7.41M 4:00 PM Boise State/Arizona Fiesta Bowl ESPN 3.4 5.01M 12:30 PM Mississippi/TCU Peach Bowl ESPN Thursday, January 1 15.2 28.27M 8:30 PM Ohio State/Alabama Sugar Bowl (Semifinal #2) ESPN 14.8 28.16M 5:00 PM FSU/Oregon Rose Bowl (Semifinal #1) ESPN 5.2 9.09M 12:30 PM Michigan State/Baylor Cotton Bowl ESPN 3.8 6.42M 12:00 PM Auburn/Wisconsin Outback Bowl ESPN2 3.7 6.12M 1:00 PM Missouri/Minnesota Citrus Bowl ABC 2015: Thursday, December 31 9.6 18.552M Alabama/MSU Cotton Bowl (semi) 8:20 PM ESPN 9.1 15.640M Clemson/Okla. Orange Bowl (semi) 4:10 PM ESPN 3.7 5.604M Houston/FSU Peach Bowl 11:58 AM ESPN Friday, January 1 7.4 13.552M Stanford/Iowa Rose Bowl 5:09 PM ESPN 5.6 9.759M Ohio State/ND Fiesta Bowl 12:56 PM ESPN 5.1 8.940M Miss./Okla. St. Sugar Bowl 8:39 PM ESPN 5.1 8.761M Michigan/UF Citrus Bowl 1:00 PM ABC — 2.821M N’Wstn/Tenn. Outback Bowl 12:00 PM ESPN2 2016: Friday, December 30 6.2 11.461M FSU Michigan Orange Bowl 8:11 PM ESPN 3.1 5.026M Tennessee Nebraska Music City Bowl 3:30 PM ESPN — 3.128M Georgia TCU Liberty Bowl 12:00 PM ESPN 1.9 2.926M Stanford UNC Sun Bowl 2:00 PM CBS Saturday, December 31 10.7 19.344M Alabama Washington (semi) Peach Bowl 3:12 PM ESPN ESPN2 9.8 19.237M Clemson Ohio State (semi) Fiesta Bowl 7:10 PM ESPN ESPN2 3.9 6.390M LSU Louisville Citrus Bowl 11:01 AM ABC 1.6 2.647M Ga. Tech Kentucky Gator Bowl 11:00 AM ESPN Monday, January 2 8.6 15.740M USC Penn State Rose Bowl 5:13 PM ESPN 5.6 9.515M Oklahoma Auburn Sugar Bowl 9:29 PM ESPN 3.6 6.106M Florida Iowa Outback Bowl 1:00 PM ABC 3.1 5.442M Wisconsin W. Michigan Cotton Bowl 1:02 PM ESPN 2017: POSTSEASON RATINGS RTG VWRS (+ Stream) GAME BOWL DATE/TIME NET 15.6 (28.443M) Alabama Georgia CFPNC Jan. 8, 8:00 PM ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU 13.7 (26.913M) Georgia Oklahoma Rose (Semi) Jan. 1, 5:00 PM ESPN & ESPN2 11.4 (21.473M) Alabama Clemson Sugar (Semi) Jan. 1, 9:00 PM ESPN & ESPN2 6.3 (11.727M) Wisconsin Miami Orange Dec. 30, 8:00 PM ESPN 5.7 (10.167M) Penn State Washington Fiesta Dec. 30, 4:00 PM ESPN 5.3 (9.468M) Ohio State USC Cotton Dec. 29, 8:00 PM ESPN 5.1 (8.713M) Notre Dame LSU Citrus Jan. 1, 1:00 PM ABC 4.6 (8.377M) UCF Auburn Peach Jan. 1, 12:30 PM ESPN 2.8 (5.050M) So. Carolina Michigan Outback Jan. 1, Noon ESPN2 2.8 (4.626M) Northwestern Kentucky Music City Dec. 29, 5:15 PM ESPN 2.7 (4.424M) Miss. St. Louisville Gator Dec. 30, Noon ESPN 2018: RTG VWRS (+ STREAM) GAME BOWL DATE/TIME NET 13.8 (25.280M) CLEM-ALA CFPNC 1/7, 8:00P ESPN MEGACAST 9.9 (19.069M) ALA-OKLA (semi) Orange 12/29, 8:00P ESPN/ESPN2 9.4 (16.809M) CLEM-ND (semi) Cotton 12/29, 4:00P ESPN/ESPN2 8.9 (16.781M) OSU-WASH Rose 1/1, 5:00P ESPN/ESPN2 7.3 (13.298M) TEX-UGA Sugar 1/1, 8:30P ESPN/ESPN2 4.7 (8.471M) LSU-UCF Fiesta 1/1, 1:00P ESPN 5.0 (8.366M) UF-MICH Peach 12/29, NOON ESPN 4.4 7.709M UK-PSU Citrus 1/1, 1:00P ABC 3.2 (5.547M) WASH ST-IA ST Alamo 12/28, 9:00P ESPN 2.7 (5.142M) T A&M-NC ST Gator 12/31, 8:00P ESPN 2019: Bowl season DATE/TIME GAME NET RTG. +/- VWRS. +/- 1/13, 8:00p LSU-CLEM NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ESPN MEGACAST 14.3 +4% 25.59M +1% 12/28, 8:00p CLEM-OSU FIESTA BOWL (CFP SEMI) ESPN MEGACAST 11.1 +12% 21.15M +11% 12/28, 4:00p LSU-OU PEACH BOWL (CFP SEMI) ESPN MEGACAST 9.5 +1% 17.21M +2% 1/1, 5:00p ORE-WISC ROSE BOWL* ESPN ESPN2 8.7 -2% 16.30M -3% 1/1, 1:00p ALA-MICH CITRUS BOWL ABC 8.0 +82% 14.00M +82% 1/1, 8:30p UGA-BYLR SUGAR BOWL ESPN ESPN2 5.7 -22% 10.22M -23% 12/28, Noon PSU-MEM COTTON BOWL* ESPN 3.8 -28% 6.22M -34% 12/30, 8:00p UF-UVA ORANGE BOWL* ESPN 3.5 -44% 6.07M -48% 12/31, 7:30p TEX-UTA ALAMO BOWL ESPN 3.1 -3% 5.61M +1% 2020: DATE/TIME GAME NET RTG. +/- VWRS. +/- 1/1, 8:00p Sugar: OSU-CLEM* ESPN Mega 9.8 -12% 19.15M -9% 1/1, 4:00p Rose: ND-ALA* ESPN Mega 9.6 +1% 18.89M +10% 1/11, 8:00p CFPNC: ALA-OSU ESPN Mega still to come 18.65M -27% 1/1, Noon Peach: UGA-CIN** ESPN Mega 4.9 -2% 8.73M +4% 1/2, 8:00p Orange: T A&M-UNC ESPN 4.3 +23% 7.58M +25% 1/2, 4:00p Fiesta: IA ST-ORE** ESPN 3.8 -19% 6.68M -21% 12/30, 8:00p Cotton: OKLA-UF ESPN 3.2 -16% 5.77M -7% 1/1, 1:00p Citrus: AUB-NWSTN ABC 2.8 -65% 4.78M -66% 1/2, 12:30p Outback: MISS-IND ABC 2.5 +4% 4.11M +3% 12/31, 4:00p Liberty: ARMY-WVU ESPN 2.2 +5% 3.74M +12% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Utah has to score here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Ball game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 SOME RANDOM KID NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF IS ON THE FIELD DROPPING DIMES AND JUST TIED IT UP this game has everything. (including, unfortunately, plenty of time for Stroud and Smith-Njigba) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoastFan Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Utes made the conference proud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 What horrific clock management by both teams. Why in the world would Whit not use any of this three timeouts? And why in the world would Day call a timeout with 12 seconds left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2022 at 7:53 PM, EastCoastFan said: Utes made the conference proud. Shit losers say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 The PAC-12 hasn't won a bowl game since the 2019 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 We didn’t stand a chance in either of the two games last year; this season had a few disappointments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Ohio State, and their 23 players out, won the propaganda battle with Utah, who had a RB trying to cover a WR who would be the first WR taken in this next draft. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chile_Ute Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2022 at 6:56 PM, dtd said: Shit losers say. Twat response 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2022 at 10:44 PM, Chile_Ute said: Twat response It's not an indictment of Utah. It's what losers say. Just win. Being proud about losing is what gets us Pac-12 football. The lovable losers always have guts and poise and moxie and heart. People hate Belichik and Saban because they win. Nobody hates Mike Riley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chile_Ute Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 On 1/1/2022 at 9:55 PM, dtd said: It's not an indictment of Utah. It's what losers say. Just win. Being proud about losing is what gets us Pac-12 football. The lovable losers always have guts and poise and moxie and heart. People hate Belichik and Saban because they win. Nobody hates Mike Riley. Sure it is...and on the conference. But you have a team that lost two teammates within a year, drop two shitty games at the beginning of the season, play a blue chip (with their missing studs) against a secondary propped up by a f-u-cking RB. It’s ok to be proud even if coming up short. They represented well IMO. in the big scheme of things it really doesn’t matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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