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On 8/6/2023 at 12:02 AM, dtd said:

$10,000 a month house. Oregon got absolute wrecked by the NCAA for less than $200. Just stop.  

10k a month for a tract home that sold for under 600k?   That must be some oregon math there.   The Griffens lived in that house for 6 months 

Oregon has been buying recruits from California and Texas because the state of Oregon is populated by a urine filled gene pool that can't play any sports.   Look at the rosters on all of their teams, every duck is from another state because the children in oregon are raised to do nothing but observe athletes or dress up like ninjas and attack people they think are "fashists".   Football, baseball, softball, basketball.... not a single sport are the majority of starters for the ducks from oregon.... and as soon as knight dies you guys will be oregon state again..... except the Beavers actually won baseball titles and ducks title count is represented by that giant zero that they have plastered all over the place.

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On 8/7/2023 at 7:16 PM, Schmick said:

 

 

10k a month for a tract home that sold for under 600k?   That must be some oregon math there.   The Griffens lived in that house for 6 months 

Oregon has been buying recruits from California and Texas because the state of Oregon is populated by a urine filled gene pool that can't play any sports.   Look at the rosters on all of their teams, every duck is from another state because the children in oregon are raised to do nothing but observe athletes or dress up like ninjas and attack people they think are "fashists".   Football, baseball, softball, basketball.... not a single sport are the majority of starters for the ducks from oregon.... and as soon as knight dies you guys will be oregon state again..... except the Beavers actually won baseball titles and ducks title count is represented by that giant zero that they have plastered all over the place.

It was $4500 per month, not $10k, you schmuck.

 

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060428&slug=webreggie28

 

According to newspaper reports, Bush's parents didn't pay $54,000 in rent during the year they lived in the house owned by a sports marketing agency investor who wanted to represent the football star.

The landlord, Michael Michaels, said that Bush's mother and stepfather agreed to pay $4,500 in monthly rent when they moved into the Spring Valley house he bought for $757,000 in March 2005, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported today.

 

Also, wtf is a "urine-filled gene pool" you fucking moron?  "Fashists"?  Tell mom your screen-time alert just dinged.

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On 8/8/2023 at 3:14 PM, clpp01 said:

ACC to Berkeley & Stanford: "Hey, we found a travel partner for you guys."

Dallas could be a good hub for those two to shorten those ACC trips.

That almost assures FSU and Clemson are on their way out of the ACC by next week.

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On 8/8/2023 at 2:20 PM, PAC MAN said:

Dallas could be a good hub for those two to shorten those ACC trips.

That almost assures FSU and Clemson are on their way out of the ACC by next week.

Those lawsuits would drag on for years, not sure they would be wanted by the B1G/SEC until those suits were settled.

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On 8/8/2023 at 3:34 PM, clpp01 said:

Those lawsuits would drag on for years, not sure they would be wanted by the B1G/SEC until those suits were settled.

Those two could say they are leaving in 2036 and work out an earlier exit and a reduced exit fee.  If the ACC-ESPN deal at least stays the same per team, the ACC's chances of winning in court could dwindle.  Once the Big 12 announced their new media rights deal post OU/UT, it was easier to negotiate an exit for those two schools.  The same could be said for the ACC after they announce a revised media rights deal after FSU and Clemson declare their intentions to exit the ACC at a specific date.  The FSU board discussions also point to a possible FSU & Clemson announcement after this upcoming season.

It's going to be the B1G versus the SEC for football and Big 12 versus the ACC for basketball going forward.

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On 8/8/2023 at 8:03 PM, PAC MAN said:

This is where I think CFB will be in six years.  Also maybe we know who the first CFB commissioner will be.

 

As long as ESPN, Fox, Apple, Amazon etc... believe there is money to be made from it we are going to see further consolidation rather then a return to regionalism.

 

On 8/8/2023 at 4:39 PM, PAC MAN said:

Those two could say they are leaving in 2036 and work out an earlier exit and a reduced exit fee.  If the ACC-ESPN deal at least stays the same per team, the ACC's chances of winning in court could dwindle.  Once the Big 12 announced their new media rights deal post OU/UT, it was easier to negotiate an exit for those two schools.  The same could be said for the ACC after they announce a revised media rights deal after FSU and Clemson declare their intentions to exit the ACC at a specific date.  The FSU board discussions also point to a possible FSU & Clemson announcement after this upcoming season.

It's going to be the B1G versus the SEC for football and Big 12 versus the ACC for basketball going forward.

The next version of the ACC in the post Clemson/Florida St world is going to resemble the Pac-4.  Once Clemson & Florida St announce their departure so too will any school that could find a home in the B1G/B12/SEC which is pretty much everyone outside Boston College & Wake Forest.

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On 8/8/2023 at 11:26 PM, clpp01 said:

As long as ESPN, Fox, Apple, Amazon etc... believe there is money to be made from it we are going to see further consolidation rather then a return to regionalism.

 

The next version of the ACC in the post Clemson/Florida St world is going to resemble the Pac-4.  Once Clemson & Florida St announce their departure so too will any school that could find a home in the B1G/B12/SEC which is pretty much everyone outside Boston College & Wake Forest.

 

First part: maybe but I like what Chip Kelly is saying and it is time to separate football from the rest of the sports.  This realignment might be the tipping point towards that.

 

As for the ACC, who knows what will happen.  The basketball centric schools could stick together and take on the Big 12 in that regard especially if ESPN keeps the payments the same.

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If all schools were independent, 5-10 schools would make all the money, and the rest would be given peanuts. Conferences give the non blue blood teams some leverage. If it is a 64 team conference that collectively bargains for all its members, ok. All independent would be a disaster for vast majority of schools.

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On 8/9/2023 at 12:55 PM, Mano said:

If all schools were independent, 5-10 schools would make all the money, and the rest would be given peanuts. Conferences give the non blue blood teams some leverage. If it is a 64 team conference that collectively bargains for all its members, ok. All independent would be a disaster for vast majority of schools.

100%.  The biggest issue is the lack of leadership over cfb.  What makes the nfl so popular (in part) is it is a level playing field.  Cfb is the exact opposite.

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On 8/9/2023 at 11:55 AM, Mano said:

If all schools were independent, 5-10 schools would make all the money, and the rest would be given peanuts. Conferences give the non blue blood teams some leverage. If it is a 64 team conference that collectively bargains for all its members, ok. All independent would be a disaster for vast majority of schools.

Yep.  Collective Bargaining 101.

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Clemson Rivals guy saying no ACC expansion that would have included Stanford, Cal, and SMU.

Next up it appears that the PAC-4 is headed to the AAC not ACC.

What's interesting is that the Big 12 & AAC HQ are in the same city and possibly same business park.  

 

 

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On 8/10/2023 at 12:18 PM, PAC MAN said:

Clemson Rivals guy saying no ACC expansion that would have included Stanford, Cal, and SMU.

 
Next up it appears that the PAC-4 is headed to the AAC not ACC.

What's interesting is that the Big 12 & AAC HQ are in the same city and possibly same business park.  

 

 

This is how things could look in the AAC in 2024:

West: 

Rice, SMU, Tulane, Stanford, Cal, Ore St, WSU, North Texas, UTSA

East:

Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Memphis, Navy, South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UAB

 

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On 8/5/2023 at 3:39 PM, Buff_Fan said:

 I’m glad you followed us over.  And do you just copy and paste this response on every third post?

I don't believe I was responding to you. If you and your brother keep running down the P12 and use my fucking name in their post, expect a reply. 

 

That said, nothing I said was incorrect about CU.

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On 8/10/2023 at 12:02 PM, EastCoastFan said:

This is how things could look in the AAC in 2024:

West: 

Rice, SMU, Tulane, Stanford, Cal, Ore St, WSU, North Texas, UTSA

East:

Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Memphis, Navy, South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UAB

 


I don’t understand the Pac-4 going to the AAC over merging with the Mountain West. Is the payout so much larger in the AAC that travel costs are negated? The Pac + MW would be considerably stronger than the AAC.

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