Scscsc89 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I think I got this right -- I'm a little rusty ... SC89's Simple Ratings -- Week Two Current Team Total BYU 1.25 1 USC 1.25 2 WSU 1.13 3 Oregon St 1.00 T4 Cal 0.88 T4 UCLA 0.88 T4 Washington 0.88 T7 Arizona 0.00 T7 ASU 0.00 T7 Oregon 0.00 T7 Stanford 0.00 Fresno State -0.13 SDSU -0.13 11 Utah -0.13 12 Colorado -1.50 add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 woooo tied for 7th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Maybe you've addressed this before, but have you considered adding a road/home element to this? I ask specifically because it would help Oregon St. right now, no other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 14, 2022 Author Share Posted September 14, 2022 It has come up & one season, some dude was so fired up over it that he re-did them with a home-away component. my take is that it doesn’t really move the needle in the long run. Good teams will overcome any road disadvantage & factoring it in would make it a lot less simple for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 Week 3 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.17 (1) T2 Washington 1.08 (T4) T2 WSU 1.08 (2) T4 Oregon St 0.92 (3) T4 UCLA 0.92 (T4) BYU 0.58 6 Oregon 0.50 (T7) T7 Arizona 0.25 (T7) T7 Cal 0.25 (T4) T7 Utah 0.25 (11) 10 Stanford 0.00 (T7) Fresno State -0.33 SDSU -0.33 11 ASU -0.67 (T7) 12 Colorado -1.33 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 26, 2022 Author Share Posted September 26, 2022 Week Four Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.25 1 (1) 2 Washington 1.19 T2 (T4) 3 UCLA 1.06 T4 (T4) 4 Oregon 0.75 6 (T7) BYU 0.69 5 WSU 0.63 T2 (2) T6 Cal 0.56 T7 (T4) T6 Utah 0.56 T7 (11) 8 Oregon St 0.50 T4 (3) 9 Arizona -0.06 T7 (T7) 10 Stanford -0.25 10 (T7) 11 ASU -0.69 11 (T7) 12 Colorado -1.25 12 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I find FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) and unranked FCS opponent to not make sense. FBS and FCS teams aren't ranked in the same poll. There will never be an FCS team that is ranked. Also, I find treating the 16th ranked team in the nation the same as the worst P5 team in the nation for win credit to be off-putting. Oregon gets 1.5 points for beating #19 BYU and UCLA gets 1.5 points for beating the worst P5 team in the nation in CU? I know it's a simple ranking but we're talking about something that could literally have two team separated by 100 ranks if we did 1-130 having the same value. Oregon's total should be (0-.5+.75+1.5+1.5)/4 = .8125. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 4:52 PM, dtd said: I find FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) and unranked FCS opponent to not make sense. FBS and FCS teams aren't ranked in the same poll. There will never be an FCS team that is ranked. Improbable but not impossible. FCS teams can get votes in the AP poll: https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2016-09-19/fcs-football-north-dakota-state-cusp-history-ap-top-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 4:52 PM, dtd said: Also, I find treating the 16th ranked team in the nation the same as the worst P5 team in the nation for win credit to be off-putting. Oregon gets 1.5 points for beating #19 BYU and UCLA gets 1.5 points for beating the worst P5 team in the nation in CU? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You've got to put a line somewhere between really good teams and average teams. To me, #16-25 doesn't impress me because one loss and you're back in the meh -- especially at this part of the season. You could put another layer in between pretty good and okay teams, but why bother. Maybe BYU will continue winning & the Ducks will get more credit for beating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 7:54 PM, Scscsc89 said: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You've got to put a line somewhere between really good teams and average teams. To me, #16-25 doesn't impress me because one loss and you're back in the meh -- especially at this part of the season. You could put another layer in between pretty good and okay teams, but why bother. Maybe BYU will continue winning & the Ducks will get more credit for beating them. I get it, I just don't think beating 13-1 Louisiana or 10-4 Iowa should be the same as beating 1-11 Arizona. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 4:52 PM, dtd said: Oregon's total should be (0-.5+.75+1.5+1.5)/4 = .8125. Whoops -- you're right. Thanks. I was giving teams -0.75 for losing to Top 15 instead of -0.5. It affects a number of other teams as well--Stanford, BYU, ASU, Wazzu, Stanford but only changes Oregon State's rank). I think it should be ... Week Four Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.25 (1) 2 Washington 1.19 (T2) 3 UCLA 1.06 (T4) 4 Oregon 0.81 (6) BYU 0.75 5 WSU 0.69 (T2) T6 Cal 0.56 (T7) T6 Utah 0.56 (T7) T6 Oregon St 0.56 (T4) 9 Arizona -0.06 (T7) 10 Stanford -0.08 (10) 11 ASU -0.56 (11) 12 Colorado -1.25 12) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 5:59 PM, dtd said: I get it, I just don't think beating 13-1 Louisiana or 10-4 Iowa should be the same as beating 1-11 Arizona. /shrug Yeah, maybe -- then again the pollsters & CFB committee are also similarly biased towards P5 wins -- so while unfair, it may be pragmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 On 9/26/2022 at 8:02 PM, Scscsc89 said: Whoops -- you're right. Thanks. I was giving teams -0.75 for losing to Top 15 instead of -0.5. It affects a number of other teams as well--Stanford, BYU, ASU, Wazzu, Stanford but only changes Oregon State's rank). I think it should be ... Week Four Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.25 (1) 2 Washington 1.19 (T2) 3 UCLA 1.06 (T4) 4 Oregon 0.81 (6) BYU 0.75 5 WSU 0.69 (T2) T6 Cal 0.56 (T7) T6 Utah 0.56 (T7) T6 Oregon St 0.56 (T4) 9 Arizona -0.06 (T7) 10 Stanford -0.08 (10) 11 ASU -0.56 (11) 12 Colorado -1.25 12) lolol, I checked all the other teams but those. Actually I did BYU but I didn't count Oregon as a top 15, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 Week 5 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.30 (1) 2 UCLA 1.15 (3) 3 Oregon 0.95 (4) 4 WSU 0.85 (5) BYU 0.80 T5 Utah 0.75 (T6) T5 Washington 0.75 (2) 7 Oregon St 0.35 (T6) T8 Arizona 0.25 (9) T8 Cal 0.25 (T6) 10 Stanford -0.31 (10) 11 ASU -0.55 (11) 12 Colorado -1.20 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share Posted October 11, 2022 Sparty has entered the chat! Week 6 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 USC 1.33 (1) 2 UCLA 1.21 (2) 3 Oregon 0.96 (3) 4 WSU 0.63 (4) San Jose State 0.55 T5 Utah 0.54 (T5) T5 Washington 0.54 (T5) BYU 0.50 7 Oregon St 0.46 (7) 8 Cal 0.25 (T8) 9 Arizona 0.13 (T8) 10 ASU -0.29 (11) 11 Stanford -0.45 (10) 12 Colorado -1.00 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 I think this is right -- we have way too many teams in the Top 25. Week 7 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 UCLA 1.38 (2) 2 USC 1.07 (1) 3 Oregon 0.96 (3) 4 Utah 0.82 (T5) T5 Oregon St 0.68 (7) T5 Washington 0.68 (T5) 7 WSU 0.39 (4) BYU 0.29 San Jose State 0.13 8 Cal 0.04 (8) 9 Arizona -0.04 (9) 10 Stanford -0.13 (11) 11 ASU -0.21 (10) 12 Colorado -0.58 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted October 28, 2022 Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 A little late on this one from last week. Does not include last night's Wazzu-Utah game Week 8 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 Oregon 1.18 (3) 2 UCLA 1.11 (1) 3 USC 1.07 (2) 4 Utah 0.82 (4) T5 Oregon St 0.78 (T5) T5 Washington 0.78 (T5) 7 WSU 0.39 (7) 8 Stanford 0.11 (10) BYU 0.00 9 Arizona -0.04 (9) 10 Cal -0.11 (8) 11 ASU -0.32 (11) 12 Colorado -0.64 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 3:44 PM, Scscsc89 said: A little late on this one from last week. Does not include last night's Wazzu-Utah game Week 8 Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 Oregon 1.18 (3) 2 UCLA 1.11 (1) 3 USC 1.07 (2) 4 Utah 0.82 (4) T5 Oregon St 0.78 (T5) T5 Washington 0.78 (T5) 7 WSU 0.39 (7) 8 Stanford 0.11 (10) BYU 0.00 9 Arizona -0.04 (9) 10 Cal -0.11 (8) 11 ASU -0.32 (11) 12 Colorado -0.64 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Looks pretty accurate to me. To be fair to the other teams not named Utah that already played and won, let’s see how things look after today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 1) Boise State has entered the chat. 2) Oklahoma State's drop from the Top15 sinks the Sun Devils below Arizona WEEK NINE Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 Oregon 1.22 (1) 2 UCLA 1.16 (2) 3 USC 1.13 (3) 4 Utah 0.91 (4) T5 Oregon St 0.78 (T5) T5 Washington 0.78 (T5) Boise State 0.34 7 WSU 0.28 (7) 8 Stanford 0.03 (8) BYU 0.00 9 Arizona -0.09 (9) 10 ASU -0.16 (11) 11 Cal -0.16 (10) 12 Colorado -0.69 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 WEEK TEN Position, Team, Score (Previous) 1 Oregon 1.25 (1) 2 UCLA 1.19 (2) 3 USC 1.17 (3) 4 Utah 0.97 (4) 5 Washington 0.86 (T5) 6 Oregon St 0.58 (T5) 7 WSU 0.42 (7) Boise State 0.08 BYU 0.00 8 Stanford -0.08 (8) 9 Arizona -0.14 (9) T10 ASU -0.19 (10) T10 Cal -0.19 (11) 12 Colorado -0.67 (12) add .75 point for each win vs. unranked FCS opponent add 1 point for each win vs. unranked midmajor (non-P5) opponent add 1.5 points for each win vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) add 2.5 points for each win vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract .5 points for each loss vs. Top 15 (AP) opponent subtract 1 point for each loss vs. an P5 team or FCS/midmajor opponent ranked 16-25 (AP) subtract 2 points for each loss vs. unranked midmajor opponent subtract 2.5 points for each loss vs. unranked FCS opponent Divide by number of games played AP Ranking is from today, not when the game was played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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