The Way Too Early PAC12 2023 Football Projection

[HLB]

USC (13-0), Undefeated Conference Champions & CFP Final Four Participant

Oregon (10-2)

Utah (9-3)

Washington, (9-3)

Oregon State, (7-5)

UCLA (7-5)

Arizona (6-6)

Washington State, (6-6)

Arizona State, (3-9)

Colorado, (3-9)

Stanford, (3-9)

Cal, (2-10)

[Orange]

Oregon St. has a 5-star transfer QB and a 4-star recruit at QB, and largely reload at all other positions.  Why do you believe we'll be 3 games worse than 2022?  OR are you just pulling all this shit out of your ass like usual?

And good LORD do you ever get the taste of USC's cock out of your mouth?

[Quack 12]

Strange that you have USC going 13-0 and winning the conference title, but you have no other team in the conference playing in the title game.

[HLB]

On 1/13/2023 at 3:50 PM, Quack 12 said:

Strange that you have USC going 13-0 and winning the conference title, but you have no other team in the conference playing in the title game.

That's because I think there are three teams that could play USC in the CCG.  I just can't decide which one will face USC.  

[HLB]

On 1/12/2023 at 9:35 AM, Orange said:

Oregon St. has a 5-star transfer QB and a 4-star recruit at QB, and largely reload at all other positions.  Why do you believe we'll be 3 games worse than 2022?  OR are you just pulling all this shit out of your ass like usual?

And good LORD do you ever get the taste of USC's cock out of your mouth?

Oregon State has their first double-digit win season (in large part because they played Florida-lite in their bowl game), in about 25 years, and suddenly you act like they do so every year.  They will fall back to reality in 2023.

DJ Uiagalelei (the 5-star transfer you are referring to) was terrible for two seasons at Clemson, and a primary reason why Clemson was simply not very good for the last two seasons.  If he was worth anything, Clemson would not have let him get away.  But they practially held the door open for him to leave.  He was so bad, that at the end of the season Clemson started a 5-star true freshman in the last two games of the season.  So, I wouldn't be so quick to get so excited if I were you.  There are three PAC12 QBs that I can think of, right off the cuff, that will perform better than Uiagalelei, in 2023 (Williams, Nix and Penix).  There may be others, but I can't remember all of the PAC12 starting QBs.

And if you're banking on a true freshman 4-star recruit to take over as the starting QB and lead the Beavers to the promise land, then you're going to be greatly disappointed.

The reason the Beavers will be three games worse in 2023:  A drop off in QB play, and because of these 2023 opponents:  San Diego State, UCLA, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Washington State.  They will lose to at least five of those six teams.

[HLB]

On 1/12/2023 at 9:35 AM, Orange said:

And good LORD do you ever get the taste of USC's cock out of your mouth?

So, for the second season in a row, I predict big things for USC, and suddenly you act like I have been hyping them for decades.

Last year, I missed the regular season projection by one game, and if Williams had not pulled a hamstring in the 2nd quarter, they wouldn't have lost the CCG either.  So, I wasn't off by much, particularly when pretty much everyone on these threads didn't project them to win more than 8 games.

In 2023, their key offensive players will be back.  Their defense will be stronger, thanks to more experience and an influx of talent from the transfer portal.

There's a reason why Riley had so much success at Oklahoma:  He knows what it takes to build a NC caliber team, and he knows what he's doing.  No other coach in the PAC12 has had the success he has had, nor do they know how to build a playoff caliber team.  And he almost took USC to the playoffs in his first year.

And I doubt you know anything about the LORD, but certainly know about the taste of a man in your mouth.

[utenation]

Fuck this thread. Go sway douchebag. My offer is $100 to kick road apples.  
 

Take it, it’s more than you make in 5 months in unemployment in shitcreek Arkansas. 

[HLB]

On 1/14/2023 at 7:15 PM, utenation said:

Fuck this thread. Go sway douchebag. My offer is $100 to kick road apples.  
 

Take it, it’s more than you make in 5 months in unemployment in shitcreek Arkansas. 

I don't live in Arkansas.

And your offer is beyond, way too low.

[Orange]

On 1/16/2023 at 5:18 PM, HLB said:

I don't live in Arkansas.

And your offer is beyond, way too low.

Well we could all just agree to ban you for zero dollars.

 

How's that?

[Orange]

On 1/13/2023 at 6:56 PM, HLB said:

Oregon State has their first double-digit win season (in large part because they played Florida-lite in their bowl game), in about 25 years, and suddenly you act like they do so every year.  They will fall back to reality in 2023.

DJ Uiagalelei (the 5-star transfer you are referring to) was terrible for two seasons at Clemson, and a primary reason why Clemson was simply not very good for the last two seasons.  If he was worth anything, Clemson would not have let him get away.  But they practially held the door open for him to leave.  He was so bad, that at the end of the season Clemson started a 5-star true freshman in the last two games of the season.  So, I wouldn't be so quick to get so excited if I were you.  There are three PAC12 QBs that I can think of, right off the cuff, that will perform better than Uiagalelei, in 2023 (Williams, Nix and Penix).  There may be others, but I can't remember all of the PAC12 starting QBs.

And if you're banking on a true freshman 4-star recruit to take over as the starting QB and lead the Beavers to the promise land, then you're going to be greatly disappointed.

The reason the Beavers will be three games worse in 2023:  A drop off in QB play, and because of these 2023 opponents:  San Diego State, UCLA, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Washington State.  They will lose to at least five of those six teams.

Oregon State was 10-3 because they lost two games by a combined 6 points, otherwise they would've been 12-1.  And because Jonathon Smith is a terrific coach, as most everyone in the country is fast realizing.

Your problem is you start every conversation with "The Pac-12 and the west coast sucks, and the SEC is awesome, and now it's time for me to pick and choose the facts, lies, and curious anecdotes that will buttress this claim."  It's the same thing you probably do with every political argument, where you cherry-pick around trump's numerous treasonous activities to justify voting for him.

You're simply not a smart person.  Weapons-grade stupid, in fact.

[HLB]

On 1/18/2023 at 2:34 PM, Orange said:

Well we could all just agree to ban you for zero dollars.

 

How's that?

You know you enjoy me being here.

Without me, who else would you get to make your childish, profanity-laced rants at?

[HLB]

On 1/18/2023 at 2:37 PM, Orange said:

"The Pac-12 and the west coast sucks, and the SEC is awesome, and now it's time for me to pick and choose the facts, lies, and curious anecdotes that will buttress this claim." 

Show me where I've made these exact statements.

Just another liberal embellishment of facts.

[HLB]

On 1/12/2023 at 9:35 AM, Orange said:

And good LORD do you ever get the taste of USC's cock out of your mouth?

Looks like Urban Meyer agrees with me.

Urban Meyer Names 1 Team He's Watching Closely In 2023 (msn.com)

[Orange]

On 2/5/2023 at 3:43 PM, HLB said:

Show me where I've made these exact statements.

Just another liberal embellishment of facts.

"liberal embellishment", lol, Republicans voted for a guy who literally lied about every detail of his education, career, and life.

 

[PAC MAN]

On 1/11/2023 at 6:27 PM, HLB said:

USC (13-0), Undefeated Conference Champions & CFP Final Four Participant

Oregon (10-2)

Utah (9-3)

Washington, (9-3)

Oregon State, (7-5)

UCLA (7-5)

Arizona (6-6)

Washington State, (6-6)

Arizona State, (3-9)

Colorado, (3-9)

Stanford, (3-9)

Cal, (2-10)

I understand why CU could be rated lower but I would say that the roster turnover has yielded an overall talent upgrade that CU by default will be better than last year's team.  That's why I didn't bother buying any preseason college football magazines this year because the rosters won't be up to date.

CU should beat Nebraska & CSU in non conference play then Stanford in conference play.  @ASU, OSU, Arizona, and @WSU might be tossups.  CU's ceiling is seven wins this year.

Boulder will be wild when USC visits and the same could be said for any PAC city they visit this year.

[Orange]

I like how he says "Oregon State will have a drop-off in QB play" when (a) we're returning our starter from last year, and (b) we have a 4-star and 5-star recruit competing in training camp with said returning starter.

Like, this couldn't be a dumber take if it was processed through a Skip Bayless membrane.

[PAC MAN]

On 7/31/2023 at 10:24 AM, Orange said:

I like how he says "Oregon State will have a drop-off in QB play" when (a) we're returning our starter from last year, and (b) we have a 4-star and 5-star recruit competing in training camp with said returning starter.

Like, this couldn't be a dumber take if it was processed through a Skip Bayless membrane.

 

I agree it was a very poor take by HLB.  Everyone is overlooking the Beavs because Caleb Williams is expected to lead USC to the CFP.  I would not mind the Beavs knocking USC out of the CFP at the P12 CCG.

I'm going to have to keep tabs on that QB race.  I watched on TV that former Clemson starter lead Clemson to a win at Norte Dame when Lawerence was ruled out of that game with an injury.  People forget the Tigers had to replace a very good RB and a couple of WRs.  If OSU has a good OL coming back and some help on offense, whoever wins the starting job at QB should have a good season for the Beavs.

[HLB]

On 2/16/2023 at 12:46 PM, Orange said:

Republicans voted for a guy who literally lied about every detail of his education, career, and life.

Again - liberal embellishment.

[HLB]

On 7/31/2023 at 1:45 PM, PAC MAN said:

 

I agree it was a very poor take by HLB.  Everyone is overlooking the Beavs because Caleb Williams is expected to lead USC to the CFP.  I would not mind the Beavs knocking USC out of the CFP at the P12 CCG.

I'm going to have to keep tabs on that QB race.  I watched on TV that former Clemson starter lead Clemson to a win at Norte Dame when Lawerence was ruled out of that game with an injury.  People forget the Tigers had to replace a very good RB and a couple of WRs.  If OSU has a good OL coming back and some help on offense, whoever wins the starting job at QB should have a good season for the Beavs.

Oregon State is not going to the P12 CCG.

They will lose between 4-6 games.  I'm thinking 6:  SDSU (which is a reach), Utah, UCLA, Washington, Oregon and Wazzu.

Their "not-so-stellar" non-conference schedule should aid their win total.

[PAC MAN]

On 8/8/2023 at 8:36 PM, HLB said:

Oregon State is not going to the P12 CCG.

They will lose between 4-6 games.  I'm thinking 6:  SDSU (which is a reach), Utah, UCLA, Washington, Oregon and Wazzu.

Their "not-so-stellar" non-conference schedule should aid their win total.

Jonathan Smith, an OSU alumni, has every reason to lead the Beavs to a big season.  If that happens, another school with money can buy out his contract and help soften the landing if the Beavs end up in the MWC.

Money is a powerful motivator at that.