2023 football schedule

[Orange]

On 1/21/2023 at 11:05 AM, EastCoastFan said:

Agree.  Just to get a feel, here's an example of a possible future Bruin nine-game conference schedule, with three opponents from the current B1G East, and five from the current West.  With each of the B1G's current teams already having a "last game' opponent, that leaves USC for UCLA:

• Purdue
• at Michigan
• Rutgers
• at Illinois
• Nebraska
• at Wisconsin
• Iowa
• at Penn State
• USC

If this were 2024, you would add the currentl scheduled at Hawaii (8/31), home with Fresno St (9/14), and at LSU (9/21).  With the 13 games allowed, it leaves room to schedule a 2024 contest with Cal on 9/7.

Any one of those road trips is probably farther than UCLA traveled all last season combined, including the bowl game.

[Trojan209]

The ND and UCLA games take away half of November for USC, leaving the first two weeks of the month for possible road game matchups. There usually isn't much snow falling around that time. The B1G is also about making money so they'll want to take advantage of that late NBC time slot meaning that they'll probably put more compelling matchups for the LA schools most years at the end of the year. 

Also, with that little wrinkle of ND on the schedule it would open up another school, possibly UCLA to take advantage of either a late-season bye or to see about scheduling Cal or Stanford late in the season. 

[HLB]

On 1/26/2023 at 4:41 PM, Trojan209 said:

The B1G is also about making money so they'll want to take advantage of that late NBC time slot

The B1G's TV contracts are already secured and the amount of money they earn from television has no bearing on what games will be scheduled, when.  Their payment is already secured with the flat rate contract(s) with networks. 

The only organization(s) that may profit from scheduling games for TV are the TV networks who will look to earn back the money they've paid to the B1G for TV rights (and more), through advertisement sales (which is based on viewership).  That why so many game times of game that are televised are determined by the networks, and are adjusted as the season goes along, to ensure the more compelling game times what they view as the best peak times to attract viewers.

[MrBug708]

[Orange]

Wow

On 2/7/2023 at 6:12 AM, MrBug708 said:

Wow, what a rip-roarin impossible OOC!

[EastCoastFan]

Not my idea, but some are discussing this:

Pod 1:
OSU, Michigan, MSU, Penn State

Pod 2:
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska

Pod 3:
Ilinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern

Pod 4:
USC, UCLA, Maryland, Rutgers
 

[glduck]

Good god, look at Pod 1 and then look at Pod 3. 

[Mano]

On 2/7/2023 at 10:12 AM, EastCoastFan said:

Not my idea, but some are discussing this:

Pod 1:
OSU, Michigan, MSU, Penn State

Pod 2:
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska

Pod 3:
Ilinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern

Pod 4:
USC, UCLA, Maryland, Rutgers
 

I would guess rather than guaranteeing 3 transcontinental travel games every year, they would put USC and UCLA with some of the conferences bigger brands so they could get the west coast recruiting and exposure. 

[Orange]

On 2/7/2023 at 9:12 AM, EastCoastFan said:

Not my idea, but some are discussing this:

Pod 1:
OSU, Michigan, MSU, Penn State

Pod 2:
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska

Pod 3:
Ilinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern

Pod 4:
USC, UCLA, Maryland, Rutgers
 

This looks like precisely the exact opposite of anything that would make sense.

[EastCoastFan]

On 2/7/2023 at 2:00 PM, Orange said:

This looks like precisely the exact opposite of anything that would make sense.

Agree, except, that is, if you're from the Big Ten.  Why?  Because it lumps the four unwanted newcomers in a nasty transcontinental pod, while keeping the real Big Ten teams in geographically and traditionally associative groupings.  It's what people in Iowa City, State College, and Bloomington want.  There still can be the media-money-making crossovers (e.g., Ohio St/USC, etc.) but the pod is the nuclear family, and the old-school B1G teams don't like adoptions.

[Orange]

On 2/7/2023 at 3:32 PM, EastCoastFan said:

Agree, except, that is, if you're from the Big Ten.  Why?  Because it lumps the four unwanted newcomers in a nasty transcontinental pod, while keeping the real Big Ten teams in geographically and traditionally associative groupings.  It's what people in Iowa City, State College, and Bloomington want.  There still can be the media-money-making crossovers (e.g., Ohio St/USC, etc.) but the pod is the nuclear family, and the old-school B1G teams don't like adoptions.

So they would guarantee that either tOSU or UM don't get out of their pod to compete for conference championships?  Is that the B1G way?  Adopting mediocrity?

"What a semi-final today as Indiana takes on Michigan!"  lollollololol

[EastCoastFan]

On 2/8/2023 at 11:01 AM, Orange said:

So they would guarantee that either tOSU or UM don't get out of their pod to compete for conference championships?  Is that the B1G way?  Adopting mediocrity?

"What a semi-final today as Indiana takes on Michigan!"  lollollololol

No, that's not what a "pod" is.  The pods they're talking about are your every-year opponents, the ones always on the schedule.  That's three games each year.  The other six games rotate every two years, so that every four years every school playes at every other.  In terms of the conference championship, two schools in the same pod could play for the championship -- it's the two schools with the best overall in-conference record.  It's a 3/6/6 scheduling arrangement.  The old time B1G schools want no part of an every year western trip, so they're talking about relegating the two smelly eastern newcomers to handle that chore.  But, every year Michigan would play either UCLA or USC, and the same for PSU and OSU.  The bottom line here is that the B1G traditionalists simply hate the west coast additions, they hate the hours and the travel, and they want to minimize their contact with two more "woke" schools; they have enough unhappiness having to deal with Wiscy.

[HLB]

On 2/7/2023 at 9:32 AM, Orange said:

Wow

Wow, what a rip-roarin impossible OOC!

And Oregon State has a rip-roarin impossible OOC?

San Jose State (G5)

UC Davis (FCS)

San Diego State (G5)

The Beavers don't play a single P% OOC opponent.

At least UGA plays a P5 opponent (Georgia Tech).  Most years Georgia plays two P5 OOC opponents.  Who would you like to see them play - Oregon?  USC?  Utah?

Understand, any OOC opponent that you would like to see UGA, play has to want to play UGA.  And I doubt there are teams beating down the door to play UGA.  Especially a team like Oregon State.

[HLB]

On 2/7/2023 at 8:12 AM, MrBug708 said:

What's your point? 

Certainly more difficult than UCLA's schedule .... Coastal Carolina, San Diego State, NC Central (No P5 OOC opponent), moderate opponents Washington State, Arizona and Oregon State, sub five-win opponents in Colorado, Stanford, ASU and Cal, and two good opponents, USC and Utah.

[MrBug708]

On 2/8/2023 at 4:13 PM, HLB said:

What's your point? 

Certainly more difficult than UCLA's schedule .... Coastal Carolina, San Diego State, NC Central (No P5 OOC opponent), moderate opponents Washington State, Arizona and Oregon State, sub five-win opponents in Colorado, Stanford, ASU and Cal, and two good opponents, USC and Utah.

Did you mean to reply to someone else? I merely posted Georgia's schedule. We can't help it that P5 teams are afraid to play UCLA.

[Orange]

On 2/8/2023 at 4:01 PM, HLB said:

And Oregon State has a rip-roarin impossible OOC?

San Jose State (G5)

UC Davis (FCS)

San Diego State (G5)

The Beavers don't play a single P% OOC opponent.

At least UGA plays a P5 opponent (Georgia Tech).  Most years Georgia plays two P5 OOC opponents.  Who would you like to see them play - Oregon?  USC?  Utah?

Understand, any OOC opponent that you would like to see UGA, play has to want to play UGA.  And I doubt there are teams beating down the door to play UGA.  Especially a team like Oregon State.

We play 9 P5 opponents to UGA's 8, dipshit.

[Trojan209]

On 2/5/2023 at 4:14 PM, HLB said:

The B1G's TV contracts are already secured and the amount of money they earn from television has no bearing on what games will be scheduled, when.  Their payment is already secured with the flat rate contract(s) with networks. 

The only organization(s) that may profit from scheduling games for TV are the TV networks who will look to earn back the money they've paid to the B1G for TV rights (and more), through advertisement sales (which is based on viewership).  That why so many game times of game that are televised are determined by the networks, and are adjusted as the season goes along, to ensure the more compelling game times what they view as the best peak times to attract viewers.

Then why is it that the CBS game of the week has featured Alabama 122 times, Florida 109 and Georgia 88 times. Meanwhile Vanderbilt only has 6 appearances and Miss State has 14. If the money was so “secure” then it shouldn’t matter what teams are featured and everyone would have appeared nearly equally.

[HLB]

On 2/8/2023 at 8:44 PM, MrBug708 said:

Did you mean to reply to someone else? I merely posted Georgia's schedule. We can't help it that P5 teams are afraid to play UCLA.

You posted UGA's football schedule.

And my reply was "What's your point (in posting UGA's football schedule)"?  Are you're implying that UGA has a weak schedule?  If so, then I was merely showing that UCLA's schedule, which is weaker.

And don't kid yourself, NO P5 team is running from playing UCLA.

[HLB]

On 2/11/2023 at 12:05 PM, Trojan209 said:

Then why is it that the CBS game of the week has featured Alabama 122 times, Florida 109 and Georgia 88 times. Meanwhile Vanderbilt only has 6 appearances and Miss State has 14. If the money was so “secure” then it shouldn’t matter what teams are featured and everyone would have appeared nearly equally.

To answer your question:  CBS selects which games, and teams they want to broadcast, for the benefit of CBS, not for the benefit of the SEC.  

In the contract, CBS has "first dibs" - each week - over ESPN and other networks, over which SEC teams and games they chose to telecast.  However, the SEC has a contract with CBS that requires CBS to portray each team at least once, per season. 

CBS gets first dibs.  ESPN gets second choice.  SEC Network gets the last choice.  They are not going to televise each team, equally.

As for the schools - Alabama, Florida, Georgia, etc., - they do not receive any more money, for each time they are televised by CBS, or any other network.  The money from TV contracts that SEC receives is pooled into one "pot" and divided equally among the conference members at the end of the year.  That includes basketball, baseball, women's softball, etc., etc. etc.

This year the SEC is dividing nearly $800M in revenues from TV contracts, bowl appearances, CWS appearances, and NCAA Basketball appearances to its member schools.  From that pool of revenue, Vanderbilt will receive as much revenue as BAMA.

[HLB]

On 2/9/2023 at 11:22 AM, Orange said:

We play 9 P5 opponents to UGA's 8, dipshit.

UGA plays 9 P5 opponents this year, but most seasons they play 10 P5 opponents ....

Eight (8) conference games, every year, along with one (1) OOC P5 opponent, in GaTech who they play in the final game of every season.

But most years UGA plays two P5 OOC opponents, for a total of 10 P5 opponents.

In 2013, and 2014 they played Clemson, in addition to GA Tech.  In 2016 they played North Carolina.  In 2017 and 2019 they played Notre Dame.  In 2021 they played Clemson, and in 2022 they played Oregon.

Most seasons, UGA plays 10 P5 opponents.  As does South Carolina, Florida and Kentucky.

In '24, '25 and '26, UGA will play two OOC P5 opponents, for 10 P5 opponents.  From '26 to '33 they will play three P5 OOC opponents, for a total of eleven P5 opponents.

All other SEC teams play 9P5 opponents (8 conference and 1 OOC P5 opponent).

The PAC12 plays 9 conference games to reduce the number of cross-country trips that comes with playing OOC opponents.  Most prospective P5 OOC opponents for the PAC12 are East of Colorado.

The SEC plays 8 conference games because they are surrounded by the ACC, Big12, multiple G5 conferences where there are a larger number of prospective OOC opponents, than the PAC12, which are easily within driving range, and having to make without cross-country trips.