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Are you confusing Oregon with Oregon State in terms of recruiting?  Obviously you must be.

 

 

 

Yes, OSU has better recruits than every BIG school with the exception of Ohio State.

 

OSU at Michigan on Sept 12. I'll take the Pac-12 school in that one.

 

How about you?

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http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-15/pac-10/2015-oregon-state-beavers-football-schedule.php

 

 

2015 Oregon State Beavers Football Schedule

 

Apr. 18 oregon_st1.gif Spring Football Game
Reser Stadium, Corvallis, OR 1:00 p.m. PT
Pac-12 Network --- Saturday

 

Sept. 5 weber-st1.gifWeber State Wildcats
Reser Stadium, Corvallis

 

Sept. 12 michigan1.gif at Michigan Wolverines 
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI

 

Sept. 19 san_jose_st1.gif San Jose State Spartans 
Reser Stadium, Corvallis

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From 2002-2014(Rivals) Michigan had an average recruiting ranking of 13. This is with multiple coaching changes.. I would definitely consider this pretty elite and OSU has been nowhere near..Without looking, I'm sure the amount of kids to the NFL in the same time period is lop sided as well.. 

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From 2002-2014(Rivals) Michigan had an average recruiting ranking of 13. This is with multiple coaching changes.. I would definitely consider this pretty elite and OSU has been nowhere near..Without looking, I'm sure the amount of kids to the NFL in the same time period is lop sided as well.. 

Here is the list from the 2014 season alone, including players on practice squads or preseason games at one point or another.

 

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/number-of-nfl-players-by-college/2014/

 

1)  USC 57

1)  Miami  57

4)  'Bama 55

5)  tOSU  53

6)  Florida State 52

10)  Oregon 43

12)  Wisconsin 42

14)  Cal  41

14)  Stanford 41

21)  Michigan 35

24)  ASU 34

42)  Oregon State 25

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Wow. I had no idea that fans in the Pac-12 North are so down on their teams. You don't even believe that your recruits are better than the recruits of the pathetic Big-10. SMH
 
By the way, I just looked at last year's Michigan roster:

 

2 from Florida

0 from Texas 

1 from California (not including the Kicker)

 
Michigan doesn't appear to be winning many recruiting battles these days against elite recruiting powerhouses like UCLA, USC, Ohio State, Florida, and Alabama.

 

 

We aren't down, we are capable of logic and reason.  There is a reason every single poster who has decided to participate in this discussion has sided against you.  You nitpick minor points and ignore glaring trends, such as Michigan's #12 recruiting ranking over a 12 year span.  This supersedes your made-up theory of only schools recruiting from Florida, Texas, and California are capable of creating a power house.  Ohio State won the BCS playoffs with predominantly mid-west recruits and they might do so again next year.  Their top two impact players were their QB (from Cleveland) and their RB (From Missouri.) 

 

Look at Alabama's roster.  They have far more players from Georgia than they do from Florida and the vast majority of their players come from Alabama.  I really don't think you've thought this through that well.

http://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/alab-m-footbl-mtt.html

 

LSU has almost an entire team of players from Louisiana. http://www.lsusports.net/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=27812&SPID=2164

 

I hope you get the point by now. 

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Here is the list from the 2014 season alone, including players on practice squads or preseason games at one point or another.

 

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/number-of-nfl-players-by-college/2014/

 

1)  USC 57

1)  Miami  57

4)  'Bama 55

5)  tOSU  53

6)  Florida State 52

10)  Oregon 43

12)  Wisconsin 42

14)  Cal  41

14)  Stanford 41

21)  Michigan 35

24)  ASU 34

42)  Oregon State 25

 

Yes, but how did they get so many good players without recruiting Florida, California or Texas!?  I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

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Yes, I think OSU recruits are better than the recruits of every BIG school, with the exception of Ohio State. Pac-12 schools are willing to play any school in the P5. We take on all comers. BIG schools, on the other hand, do their best to avoid playing P5 schools.

 

What is your opinion of Cal? Don't you believe Cal recruits are better than the recruits of any BIG school?

 

lol wut???

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Jesus.  Someone's trolling.  Gotta be.

 

If we've been getting better recruits than Michigan and Penn State, then Mike Riley was a dogshit coach, and NFL GMs everywhere are about as smart as golden retrievers for overlooking such possible NFL greats as Sean Canfield and Ken Simonton!

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I can't believe I am defending Pac-12 North schools from the very fans who root for them. I had to check to make sure I wasn't posting on a Big-10 board.

 

LOL

 

Your teams are really good!!! 

They can compete with most every school in the Big 10. Trust Me!!!

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If we've been getting better recruits than Michigan and Penn State, then Mike Riley was a dogshit coach, and NFL GMs everywhere are about as smart as golden retrievers for overlooking such possible NFL greats as Sean Canfield and Ken Simonton!

 

 

You make it sound like Michigan & Penn State have been successful on the field over the last 20 years. 

 

They suck!!! Everybody knows it! Look at the records.

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I can't believe I am defending Pac-12 North schools from the very fans who root for them. I had to check to make sure I wasn't posting on a Big-10 board.

 

LOL

 

Your teams are really good!!! 

They can compete with most every school in the Big 10. Trust Me!!!

 

  I highly suggest you start watching college football.  It's a sport with great tradition, amazing rivalries, and some of the most passionate fans in the world.  Unlike the NFL, college football players don't make money but they are granted free tuition if they are able to obtain a scholarship to a university.  There are different rules in College Football when compared to the NFL such as how Overtime and how time time is kept.  There is no 2 minute warning in college football but the clock does stop until the ball is set after a first down. 

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Michigan has 27 on active rosters.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/m

 

Oregon State has 18 on active rosters.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/o

 

Penn State has 26 on active rosters.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/p

 

San Diego State has 12 on active rosters.

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/p

 

This must be another sockpuppet from that San Diego State fan who seems to be deluded to the point of psychosis.  Either that, or "Sparky" is a world-class idiot who is an ASU fan.

I just looked it up. Cal and Oregon State each have more players on current NFL rosters than either Michigan or Penn State.

 

Stand tall Pac-12 North fans!!!

 

LOL

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Let's be kind to Sparky and assume he just got a bit exuberant in talking up the PAC. Obviously the odds of success, both relative and absolute, are greater in Madison than Corvallis and no one should need to research and post obscure recruiting statistics for that to be evident. Just as obviously, Anderson encountered serious obstacles and/or irritants in Madison. I think he will be good for OSU, and together with Tinkle in basketball and the football assistants, signals the greatest coaching upgrade in the PAC in some time.

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Beavers in the NFL: 31 (Not Counting Free Agents)

 

Cal Bears in the NFL: 32

 

 

Player Position NFL Team NFL Year Lorenzo Alexander Linebacker Arizona Cardinals 2006 Keenan Allen Wide Receiver San Diego Chargers 2013 Tyson Alualu Defensive Tackle Jacksonville Jaguars 2010 C. J. Anderson Running Back Denver Broncos 2013 Bryan Anger Punter Jacksonville Jaguars 2012 Desmond Bishop Linebacker San Francisco 49ers 2007 Keith Browner Defensive End Houston Texans 2011 Chris Conte Safety Chicago Bears 2011 Brian De La Puente Center Chicago Bears 2008 Thomas DeCoud Safety Carolina Panthers 2008 Justin Forsett Running Back Baltimore Ravens 2008 Khairi Fortt Linebacker Jacksonville Jaguars 2014 DeSean Jackson Wide Receiver Washington Redskins 2008 Marvin Jones Wide Receiver Cincinnati Bengals 2012 Cameron Jordan Defensive End New Orleans Saints 2011 Mychal Kendricks Linebacker Philadelphia Eagles 2012 L.P. Ladouceur Long snapper Dallas Cowboys 2005 Marshawn Lynch Running Back Seattle Seahawks 2007 Alex Mack Center Cleveland Browns 2009 Chris McCain Linebacker Miami Dolphins 2014 Brandon Mebane Defensive Tackle Seattle Seahawks 2007 Mike Mohamed Linebacker Houston Texans 2011 Aaron Rodgers Quarterback Green Bay Packers 2005 Richard Rodgers Tight End Green Bay Packers 2014 Jeremy Ross Wide Receiver Detroit Lions 2011 Mitchell Schwartz Offensive Tackle Cleveland Browns 2012 Brian Schwenke Center Tennessee Titans 2013 Craig ******ns Tight End Tennessee Titans 2008 Nick Sundberg Long snapper Washington Redskins 2009 Will Ta'ufo'ou Fullback Jacksonville Jaguars 2009 Shane Vereen Running Back New England Patriots 2011 ****** Williams Cornerback San Diego Chargers 2013

 

Michigan Wolverines in the NFL: 29 (Not Counting Free Agents)

 

 

 

 

Penn State Nittany Lions in the NFL: 28 (Not Counting Free Agents)

 

 

Player Team Position NaVorro Bowman San Francisco 49ers Linebacker Brett Brackett Free Agent Tight End Levi Brown Free Agent Offensive Tackle Deon Butler Free Agent Wide Receiver Dan Connor Carolina Panthers Linebacker Jack Crawford Oakland Raiders Defensive End Robbie Gould Chicago Bears Place kicker Tamba Hali Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker Josh Hull Washington Redskins Linebacker Dennis Landolt Free Agent Offensive Tackle Sean Lee Dallas Cowboys Linebacker Aaron Maybin Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker Derek Moye Pittsburgh Steelers Wide Receiver Jordan Norwood Tampa Bay Buccaneers Wide Receiver Jared Odrick Miami Dolphins Defensive End Rich Ohrnberger Arizona Cardinals Guard Paul Posluszny Jacksonville Jaguars Linebacker Chaz Powell Free Agent Safety Andrew Quarless Green Bay Packers Tight End Allen Robinson Jacksonville Jaguars Wide Receiver Michael Robinson Seattle Seahawks Fullback Evan Royster Washington Redskins Running Back Bryan Scott Buffalo Bills Linebacker Tim Shaw Tennessee Titans Linebacker A.Q. Shipley Baltimore Ravens Center Mickey Shuler Oakland Raiders Tight End Devon Still Cincinnati Bengals Defensive Tackle Nathan Stupar Jacksonville Jaguars Linebacker Andrew Szczerba Atlanta Falcons Tight End Johnnie Troutman San Diego Chargers Guard Cameron Wake Miami Dolphins Linebacker Stefen Wisniewski Oakland Raiders Guard Matt McGloin Oakland Raiders Quarterback

 

Wisconsin Badgers in the NFL: 34

 

 

Name Position Current Team Draft year Jared Abbrederis Wide Receiver Green Bay Packers 2014 Beau Allen Defensive Tackle Philadelphia Eagles 2014 Montee Ball Running Back Denver Broncos 2013 Chris Borland Inside Linebacker San Francisco 49ers 2014 Gabe Carimi Guard Atlanta Falcons 2011 Jonathan Casillas Outside Linebacker New England Patriots 2009 Marcus Cromartie Cornerback San Diego Chargers undrafted in 2013 Owen Daniels Tight End Baltimore Ravens 2006 Bradie Ewing Fullback Jacksonville Jaguars 2012 Travis Frederick Center Dallas Cowboys 2013 David Gilreath Wide Receiver Seattle Seahawks undrafted in 2011 Garrett Graham Tight End Houston Texans 2010 Ryan Groy Guard Chicago Bears undrafted in 2014 Nick Hayden Defensive Tackle Dallas Cowboys 2008 Ethan Hemer Defensive Tackle Pittsburgh Steelers undrafted in 2014 Lance Kendricks Tight End St. Louis Rams 2011 Peter Konz Center Atlanta Falcons 2012 Jim Leonhard Safety Cleveland Browns undrafted in 2005 DeAndre Levy Outside Linebacker Detroit Lions 2009 Chris Maragos Free Safety Philadelphia Eagles undrafted in 2010 Brad Nortman Punter Carolina Panthers 2012 O'Brien Schofield Defensive End Seattle Seahawks 2010 Matt Shaughnessy Outside Linebacker Arizona Cardinals 2009 Dezmen Southward Free Safety Atlanta Falcons 2014 Mike Taylor Outside Linebacker Seattle Seahawks undrafted in 2013 Joe Thomas Offensive Tackle Cleveland Browns 2007 Scott Tolzien Quarterback Green Bay Packers undrafted in 2011 Nick Toon Wide Receiver New Orleans Saints 2012 Kraig Urbik Guard Buffalo Bills 2009 Ricky Wagner Offensive Tackle Baltimore Ravens 2013 J.J. Watt Defensive End Houston Texans 2011 James White Running Back New England Patriots 2014 Russell Wilson Quarterback Seattle Seahawks 2012 Kevin Zeitler Guard Cincinnati Bengals 2012
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eh... sparky, your list is generating plenty of practice squad players that no longer play in the nfl. tj houshmanzadeh, for instance, hasn't played in the nfl since oakland, in 2011. sabby piscitelli, who you have as an active nfl player, now wrestles in the WWE.

 

i'm sure there are others. the problem with trying to stay "current" with nfl almuni and using practice squad players is that whatever website you got these from clearly doesn't update when a player is cut/retires/whatever. all hail is using active roster participants, which by any metric is the way to go.

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tj houshmanzadeh, for instance, hasn't played in the nfl since oakland, in 2011. sabby piscitelli, who you have as an active nfl player, now wrestles in the WWE.

 

 

I did not count those guys in my totals because they are listed as Free Agents.

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I did not count those guys in my totals because they are listed as Free Agents.

 

I'm still waiting to see how you're going to tie this back to your original point, or have you already forgotten it? 

 

Somehow, Wisconsin having more NFL talent, more wins, more Rose Bowls, and playing in an easier conference is the reason why Gary Anderson thinks he has a better chance at winning a national championship at Oregon State.  

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Nobody here can claim that they can get inside Anderson's head for the reason of why he left Wisconsin. This is all just speculation.

 

The same goes for the guy that was head coach before Anderson, Bret Bielema, leaving Wisconsin for Arkansas.

 

It's all speculation on this board.  ;)

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