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On 6/21/2017 at 10:34 AM, MrBug708 said:

Inhaled once. I suffer from migraines and have always wondered if it would cure them. Once everything gets legalized, I might try it out. But being a teacher, I do wonder about rules and regulations in this particular industry.

Bug,

I suffered migraines for for a decade and I wish I knew more about CBD in general back then.  My left kidney would have been in better shape if I knew earlier and after taking so many Excerdin pills.  Now the doc says I can't take any NSAIDs for the time being due to my kidney condition.

I wish you the very best in your situation because I know it's not fun to have migraines.  That's why I'm doing quite a lot of reading on cannabis and there appears to be some strains that are high on CBD and very low on THC that do help migraines.

My wife suffers from chronic pain in her knees and back from many accidents in the vehicles and go karting when she was younger.  If she has an accident at work, it's an automatic drug test and I do truly want to help her.

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1 hour ago, Nakedmolerat said:

Correct, when smoked together. Individually, one is bad, one is not. 

I know several people (a few are employees of mine) that smoke a pack and a half or more of cigarettes each day. That's 30-40 cigarettes. 

I know no one that smokes 30 joints in a day. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, and I'd be the first to admit that anyone ingesting 30 joints worth of marijuana smoke is both damaging their lungs and having difficulty following the plot of the movie they're watching. 

Even Biggie Smalls didn't smoke that much. "I only got 5 blunts left to light. I'm set tonight."

I smoked in the past too and only need one hand to count those times took a couple of hits before the THC kicked in.  Thank goodness I didn't allow cigarettes to be a habit when my sister gave me several cigarettes to smoke after school...never will forget the inability to remove the taste of cigarettes from my mouth before I ate a meal.

Still never a good thing to inhale smoke in your lungs from any source of smoke but I understand your point.

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1 hour ago, Nakedmolerat said:

CBD is just one of the many, many (including THC) cannabinoids in the marijuana plant. It is not an alternative to weed. It is weed. 

Thanks for clearing it up.  If I do weed, it'll be the low to no THC type.  It's a sticky issue as a federal employee.

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1 minute ago, MrBug708 said:

Mine are derived from food allergies. Kaiser is convinced they are from something else, but alas. Thankfully I found prescription meds that take care of it

I'm glad you are overcoming your migraines.

Given that I'm also under Kaiser, I haven't heard about their stance on CBD and things like that.  Have you heard anything?  It's understandable if they are trying to protect their prescription business.

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4 hours ago, Orange said:

You're a terrible researcher.  Your thesis appears to be that smoking weed doesn't relax you, and then you post an article that identifies strains of weed that do exactly that.  Yes, certain strains will make you paranoid and anxious.  Others will not.  This kind of ignorance about marijuana in general breeds your hysteria.  Yes, you don't want to "overdose" on thc, it can cause paranoia, give you anxiety, etc.  For the same reason, you don't want to take 8 shots of liquor at night, because you'll become blackout drunk, and likely vomit all night and into the next morning.

The difference is, no matter how much weed you smoke, you'll never die, and you won't have a hangover.  Why am I forced to defend marijuana again?

Google is dangerous in the hands of idiots.

The ignorance could be because of jackoffs like you who attack people for merely stating their opinions.

And experts are supposed to remain chill and answer questions in a decent way.  And you call yourself an "expert"?  This would be me:

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21 minutes ago, Jalapeno said:

 

I'm glad you are overcoming your migraines.

Given that I'm also under Kaiser, I haven't heard about their stance on CBD and things like that.  Have you heard anything?  It's understandable if they are trying to protect their prescription business.

They are no friend of weed

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1 hour ago, Jalapeno said:

The ignorance could be because of jackoffs like you who attack people for merely stating their opinions.

And experts are supposed to remain chill and answer questions in a decent way.  And you call yourself an "expert"?  This would be me:

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That's hilarious given that literally 100% of the people on this forum (apart from you) laugh that way at nearly all of your stupid fucking posts.  (Even don cracked a joke at your expense in his first reply on this thread.)  From making a "beaver" pun in a thread about child molestation to advancing your non-facts in support of prohibition of marijuana, to your ridiculous evangelical bullshit; You're a running joke here.

You're not here to get advice or information "from an expert."  You're here to advance your agenda against pot.  This is proven by virtue of the fact that I was polite and patiently answered your questions at first, and then you flipped out when I didn't simply capitulate to your political views on pot.  You're basically bruin, except you don't have the decency to limit your remarks to meme form.  

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50 minutes ago, MrBug708 said:

They are no friend of weed

The entire pharmaceutical industry is no friend of weed.  If they were smart, they'd be gobbling up marijuana farms everywhere and putting cash into research (while simultaneously lobbying for an end to prohibition), but old, grey, fat, white men usually aren't at the cutting edge of things....

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Nevada joins the ranks of those allowing rec marijuana effective in a little over 12 hours:

 

https://mjbizdaily.com/week-review-nevada-rec-ready-roll-credit-unions-symbolic-victory-canopys-aggressive-growth/

 

And they won't waste a second, either, as cannabis shops can stay open til 3 am.  Time to check the Nevada Bar reciprocity rules....

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On 6/28/2017 at 3:23 PM, Orange said:

The entire pharmaceutical industry is no friend of weed.  If they were smart, they'd be gobbling up marijuana farms everywhere and putting cash into research (while simultaneously lobbying for an end to prohibition), but old, grey, fat, white men usually aren't at the cutting edge of things....

Totally agree with this.  What could be stopping them when it comes to research are Federal laws that need to be taken care of if I'm not mistaken.  I'm not sure if the Trump Administration is receptive to the idea and I would think that is more of a NO.

As a long time conservative, it will take me some time before I could be supportive of the legalization of recreational pot.  Still a lot of reading to do especially when it comes to the THC and CBD balance.  Right now I can only take Tylenol for pain and I'm thankful that I don't have to use that as often but there could come a point where I would have to really seriously consider using weed as a method for pain relief.  My inability to take the high majority of over the counter NSAID medication is forcing me to this point to look at other alternatives.

http://www.refinery29.com/2017/07/163287/oregon-drug-decriminalization-bill-heroin-cocaine

What's your take on the state of Oregon de-felonizing other drugs such as cocaine, herion, etc?  Article says Portgual decriminalized those drugs back in 2001 and it has been a success.  Perhaps Oregon is taking the first step towards decriminalization of those drugs...maybe it won't happen until either after Trump is done as POTUS or the Dems take back control of Congress.

I agree that the War on Drugs has been lost badly and we need to go the opposite way especially decriminalizing those drugs so it would be easier for people to seek help for their addictions.  I'm quite hopeful it puts the drug cartels out of business or really harms their business or really reduces the violence dramatically.

 

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13 hours ago, Jalapeno said:

As a long time conservative, it will take me some time before I could be supportive of the legalization of recreational pot.

 

Yeah, but why? Aren't conservatives all about personal freedoms and the government not telling them what to do? (think gun rights) Why is weed any different, as a conservative? 

It seems really simple to me. If you don't like weed, don't ingest it. Same as if you don't like strawberry rhubarb pie. Or roller coasters. Or fancy rims on your car. 

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On 7/15/2017 at 2:49 AM, Nakedmolerat said:

Yeah, but why? Aren't conservatives all about personal freedoms and the government not telling them what to do? (think gun rights) Why is weed any different, as a conservative? 

It seems really simple to me. If you don't like weed, don't ingest it. Same as if you don't like strawberry rhubarb pie. Or roller coasters. Or fancy rims on your car. 

Because being a sanctimonious old fuck is FAR more a part of the conservative credo than any actual principles.  As are all of these items:

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On 7/15/2017 at 3:49 AM, Nakedmolerat said:

Yeah, but why? Aren't conservatives all about personal freedoms and the government not telling them what to do? (think gun rights) Why is weed any different, as a conservative? 

It seems really simple to me. If you don't like weed, don't ingest it. Same as if you don't like strawberry rhubarb pie. Or roller coasters. Or fancy rims on your car. 

You make a good point about conservatives favoring politicians that support smaller government and less invasion of privacy .  That's why I'm becoming more libertarian in my political leanings.  The War on Drugs have been lost and have came at a huge cost and it's time to look at alternatives to combating drug addiction in this country.  I'm not one to change that quickly as I like to make sure I feel like I'm really doing the right thing for myself.  The main question is can I trust people enough to not drive under the influence thus potentially putting me in danger or be negatively impacted by someone under the influence?  It's a step of faith that I'm taking in this case and given what I have seen in Colorado since Amendment 64 has passed, I'm becoming more comfortable with people as long as they do it in their private residences which is how Amendment 64 spells it out here.  I'm okay as long as I don't see any more white crosses, memorial plagues, and flowers on the side of the road in remembrance of people being killed by people driving under the influence.  If that continues, people from the American heartland will be more open to change and that has happened with the passage of medical marijuana in southern states such as Georgia & Florida.

Many thanks to everyone for bearing with me all these years.  And your welcome as well for me bearing with some of you on this board.

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There's plenty of data out there that demonstrates that marijuana has no effect on the number of DUIs.  If you're "ready" to tolerate drinking with the associated risk that some people will drive drunk, then you should've --- long before --- been ready to accept smoking marijuana.  First, because alcohol kills people even without the need for a vehicle (marijuana does not -- not ONE recorded case of death by overdose), and second because alcohol has few, if any, associated medical benefits via ingestion (marijuana has countless benefits).  One can even argue that driving under the influence of marijuana is FAR less dangerous than driving while under the influence of alcohol.

Zero additional thought is needed.  Marijuana should be freely available to all Americans, everywhere, over the age of 21.  It's obscene that people are in prison over this plant.  It's really a civil rights travesty.  Hence my lack of patience for people like you who continue to doubt it even though there is abundant information available proving what I just said.

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6 hours ago, KUGRDON said:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1AP0JS

potheads more likely to die from hypertension and risk increases with every year of use.

By the study's own admission, it's bullshit.  They didn't control for diet and exercise.  Don could smoke one joint today, then have a heart attack because he's a fat ass, and blame marijuana.

http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2017/08/study_linking_cardiovascular_d.html

The study controlled for those who had previously been diagnosed with high blood pressure. it it did not take other cardiovascular risk factors into account, including diet and exercise.

It boggles the mind that any study could be claiming to establish a causal link between anything and cardiovascular disease,  BUT OMIT THE RISK FACTORS OF POOR DIET AND LACK OF EXERCISE.

I've really enjoyed your past alcohol studies you've posted that, for decades, have linked it to cirrhosis, heart attack, domestic violence, vehicular accidents, ulcers, etc.  Oh wait...

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http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/HealthyLiving/HealthyEating/DiningOut/Eating-Fast-Food_UCM_301473_Article.jsp#.WYs131GGM2w

 

Don just posted a heartwarming tale of him and his "nephews" gorging themselves at a crab shack somewhere....but today, he's wagging a finger over the deleterious effects of marijuana use.

 

Give.  Me.  A.  Break.

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