DenverUte13 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Does Utah jump Oregon in today's polls after last night's games and the comparative scores over WSU? Who is in a better position to get the PAC back in playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Both would get our doors blown off by tOSU. Who should be #1 soon. But right now Utah looks better. Of course it won't mean jack, if uo loses to SC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, DenverUte13 said: Does Utah jump Oregon in today's polls after last night's games and the comparative scores over WSU? Who is in a better position to get the PAC back in playoffs? I think they both lose, next week. Oregon @ USC and Utah @ UW …. However, if either of these two teams wins that PAC12, with one loss (as it stands, they would play each other and one would have to sustain a 2nd loss), I still don't think the PAC12 gets in the playoff. Oregon's loss to Auburn takes a hit, every time Auburn loses. Auburn's lost two, and with BAMA and Georgia games still to play, Auburn could finish with 4 losses, which would make Oregon's loss to Auburn, more damaging for Oregon. Utah's OOC schedule is weak. That factor could only be overcome if Utah had gone undefeated and finished the season 13-0, and PAC12 Champion. The last factor is what other teams will do. If BAMA/LSU, Ohio State/Penn State, Clemson and perhaps Baylor finish as undefeated conference champions, there wouldn't be any room for a 1-loss PAC12 Champion. I think the BAMA/LSU winner (in two weeks) will win the SEC. I think the Ohio State/PSU winner will take the B1G. If either game is close, then the loser of either game might still make the playoffs, over a 1-loss PAC12 Champion, or a 1-loss Big12 Champion. Between Ohio State, Clemson, BAMA, LSU, Penn State, Baylor and Oklahoma (if they finish with 1-loss), I think there are too many teams that a 1-loss PAC12 Champion will have to leap. I will go back to what I tried to emphasize in week one of this season, and that is the fact that the PAC12 struggles to beat ranked P5 OOC opponents. Beating OOC opponents such as a 5-win Nebraska, 7-win Michigan State, 7-win Texas Tech, etc. is not enough. And if the PAC12 cannot beat the Auburn's, Notre Dame's, Oklahoma's, etc., then their status as a conference with a viable contender, takes a negative hit. The perception is that they can only beat lower level P5 OOC opponents, and each other. That doesn't resonate well with the committee, who is trying to put the best four teams in the playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mano Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 No one in the East actually watched either game, they will just note that both won and keep the relative ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, HLB said: I think the BAMA/Clemson winner (in two weeks) will win the SEC. It would be amazing to see Clemson win the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: It would be amazing to see Clemson win the SEC. A typo - and I was in the middle of fixing it when my computer rebooted for updates. You can see my correction (and additions) above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLB Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Mano said: No one in the East actually watched either game, they will just note that both won and keep the relative ranking. And your proof of that is ….? The Utah game was over in the first quarter. At that point, everyone knew who would win, and watching that game in its entirety was not going to change anything. The "game" was the WSU/Oregon game. An exciting and competitive game which a lot of people East of Colorado viewed. But it really doesn't matter, because the entire nation saw Oregon lose to Auburn, and recognize that Utah didn't play anyone of note, in OOC play. Beat quality OOC opponents, and more people across the country will be more compelled to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I can envision a scenario in which Utah could overtake Oregon in the rankings, that being, Utah goes to Seattle and continues it’s recent pattern of domination. The Utes and Ducks have had common opponents this year already, true, but those teams have been erratic this year. Games like each team hosting Washington St or playing California. Not much can be discerned from that. But UO barely escaping with a comeback win in Seattle kind of sets the table. Now if Utah loses to UW, or Oregon goes to USC and dominates, then all bets are off. (If Oregon goes to USC and loses, then they’ll get a chance at redemption in CCG, and Utah says hello to the Sun Bowl.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I guess I don’t really care who is ranked higher... if we’re talking CFP, both teams will need to be 11-1 heading to Santa Clara. We’ll put on a show and we’ll see if it’s enough to push the winner into the top 4. The door is definitely open wider than it was 24 hours ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I agree. The only chance to have a team in the CFP hinges on two 11-1 teams meeting in the CCG. At that point, assuming the winner goes to the CFP, there is no loser because the consolation prize would be the Rose Bowl. In Week 9 it’s irrelevant which team is ranked higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Georgia or Florida will lose this week. Utah may well be the better team but a harder sell for the CFP because of loss to SC and very weak OOC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Utah "deserves" it, but ultimately it doesn't matter. If we're doing a power ranking, Oregon is probably 11 or 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I mean, does anyone think Oregon comes within a score of Utah if they had played the last 2 weeks? The transitive property of sports can't be used wholesale, but at some point a picture becomes more clear. Utah has now *dismantled* two teams Oregon struggled with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Last week? Yes. Last night? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Chad Sexington said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Sexington Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 This site has been so fucking buggy lately. Anyway, it’s impossible to say. Oregon hasn’t really been pushed. They overcame a potentially disastrous Seattle visit and won almost in spite of themselves. It’s a matchup I want to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Didn't Cal play 2 QBs yesterday that wouldn't start at Sac St? It's hard to take anything from that game. The only thing we can take from that, is Moss didn't fumble to ball twice inside the 30, while our backup RB did. Outside of that, both D shut down Cal and both O had about the same yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, dtd said: I mean, does anyone think Oregon comes within a score of Utah if they had played the last 2 weeks? The transitive property of sports can't be used wholesale, but at some point a picture becomes more clear. Utah has now *dismantled* two teams Oregon struggled with. I think we are playing the best right now but let’s see how we do against UW. They have been our kryptonite. Utah also has been struggling against ASU and WSU the last five years too and we blew them out. I think Utah is a special team this year. UW is a bit down but in Seattle they are still very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utenation Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 6 hours ago, HLB said: I think they both lose, next week. Oregon @ USC and Utah @ UW …. Nice. This always bodes well when you pick against Utah. You’ve been embarrassed with your picks the whole season. Hell, you think Clemson plays in the SEC... Your opinion has proven to be worth as much as your “book” sales will be. Zilch. Nada. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtd Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 If Oregon's defense plays Utah they way they played UW and WSU, the Utes score 40. There's no way in hell Oregon puts 40 on that Ute D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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