EastCoastFan

We need a broad perspective here. This is simply a ag school dicsussion. For real insight into the upcoming contest, one has to delve deeply into the 25-14 Beav victory over the lambs in 1962, the largest margin of victory in their extensive three-game historical series.

Good point. I can agree with that. In most cases.

Wasn't the widespread voter fraud which put the wrong person in the White House in 2016?

That's exactly what I said. I put it there as contrast to what ought to happen on the other side, to the incoming healthy dollars from the infrastructure of Pac-TV, future payouts from past NCAA tourney performances, and other conference assets. Those $$$s should go only to those left behind. (Also, do they still have Larry's limo?)

All the Pac-12 debt should be clipped from this year's payouts to all 12 schools. Then, all the income derived from selling the conference assets should head only to Pullman and Corvallis.

Of course. So would every school not in the B1G or SEC. Enough said...

This altogther is a pretty circular discussion. Let's just get the bottom line out front and center -- college athletic departments follow the money. The football money. It rules. Plain and simple. All the other sports and the fans and the volleyball and soccer players get dragged along. Has it really been better for Missouri to be in a conference division with Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina? Or for West Virginia to be playing games in all sports at a variety of Texas schools? Is it better that we've lost the neighborhood rivalries or Pitt/Penn State, KU/Missouri, Nebraska/Oklahoma, A&M/Tech? Of course not. In an effort to continue to fund all athletics, so they don't get left behind, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, and ASU will now be playing games in all sports in Orlando, Morgantown, and Cincinnati. All to keep the cash flowing, even though they'll still be far behind the Power Two. UCLA and USC will be hitting big paydays, juicy ones to spread the money around, but having all types of teams waiting in airports to get to State College, College Park, Champaign, Iowa City, and Piscataway. None of this makes sense other than to keep the cash flowing, the big bucks, to pay head football coaches $6 to $10 million a year and to have "facilities" with center fountains, barber shops, player lockers each equipped with individual TVs, and, of course, a circle of funders packing the coffers of NIL collectives. It all makes one think that the one school that got it right, long in advance, was the University of Chicago, back in 1946.

Yeah, it's clear Sanders wanted to avoid controversy. He's a guy who simply doesn't like to ruffle anyone's feathers. /s

Tuscaloosa must be some rockn' media market.

This is interesting. It would give the Pac-4 a chance to add AAC and MWC members without as high a payout penalty, SMU, San Diego St, Rice, Navy, Air Force, Army. Would make an interesting national conference.

Given where we are, what would you like to see the landing spot for the Beavs? As for me, I'm down on college football. Everything's a mess. Duck volleyball players are going to be shipped to mid-week College Park matches, Husky golfers will be in Piscataway, NJ on Thursdays, UCLA's track squad will be at State College, etc., etc. All of this has to do with football, with only four or five conference away games a year, all on Saturdays. Every other sport and every other athlete will pay the price.

Paul Newberry has written a great article, well worth reading: https://www.texarkanagazette.com/news/2023/aug/12/paul-newberry-football-rules-and-every-other/

There are so many variables that make for a spectaular season. For example, looking at Boulder in 2022, Colorado could have gone to the Playoffs if they just had a different quarterback, a serious blue-chip, and also twenty-one other new players. Although they probably would have needed a completely different coaching staff too. Looking back, they came so close to glory.

I'm not sure I understand either. Perhaps it's that Stanford and Cal prefer to rub elbows with highly rated academic schools like Rice, Tulane, Navy, and SMU.

This is how things could look in the AAC in 2024: West: Rice, SMU, Tulane, Stanford, Cal, Ore St, WSU, North Texas, UTSA East: Charlotte, East Carolina, Florida Atlantic, Memphis, Navy, South Florida, Temple, Tulsa, UAB

One silver lining about the demise of the Pac-12 -- HLB will be in a room with empty chairs when he begins his circle jerk.

Also, 28 inches of snow, lightning and tropical storms, or 122 degrees of temperature.

It's probably because a 6-7 Florida team beat a 10-4 Utah team last year, cementing the "SEC is better" mentality of bettors.

No, you're right, but when you think about it, it's Colorado that set things in motion and opened the sealed door to get Oregon invited to the B1G.

Somehow Cal vs Clemson and Stanford vs Louisville don't make a ringing endorsement for compelling viewing

So, USC is the victim in all of this. All the other schools are to blame. Alternate reality.

Obsession. Repeated obsession. What works is when posters add something new, not a repeat (sometimes in the exact words) of what they've said countless times before in the same thread. I happen to like Utah. But there's a fan there who, no matter how hard he rubs, can't get it off.

The culprit...

I'm with you totally that Utah deserves a landing pad. The question, though, is whether Yormark sees it that way. He's looking at media markets and has to sell ESPN and Fox on additions, and they are looking at viewing audiences, population bases, and redundancies. BYU presents a challenge because of overlapping media coverage, as well as the potential for BYU (as a Big-12 member) giving pushback. Yormark (along with particularly Kansas) also sees big $$$'s on the basketball side once the conferences take the tournament money that now lands in the NCAA's pocket, which makes UConn particularly appealing to him.