MrBug708 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 they are listed first alphabetically https://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/cal-football-2019-season/2019/12/1/20990205/california-golden-bears-pac-12-standings-2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 OSU, Cal, and UW have similar 4-5 conference records. Cal & UW have similar 7-5 overall records and Cal beat UW so Cal should be the #2 team in the South. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Jalapeno said: OSU, Cal, and UW have similar 4-5 conference records. Cal & UW have similar 7-5 overall records and Cal beat UW so Cal should be the #2 team in the South. This was my thinking, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Overall records are never used as a conference tie-breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: Overall records are never used as a conference tie-breaker. I mean, there's no prize for "2nd place in the North", is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Jalapeno said: Cal should be the #2 team in the South. If only they played in the South. The league has Cal in the No. 2 spot, because: The official Pac-12 football standings are ordered highest to lowest in each division based on five criteria: Winning percentage in Pac-12 play Number of wins in Pac-12 play Overall winning percentage Number of overall wins Alphabetical order * Note: See the comprehensive explanation of multiple team tiebreakers used to determine who participates in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game. ** Note: Head-to-head tiebreaker is used only to determine division winners. The Pac-12 only decides who wins the division, they make no distinction between second and third. Cal and UW are tied and listed in alphabetical order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 There isn't -- but if you are going to try, you might as well use the right rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: There isn't -- but if you are going to try, you might as well use the right rules. According to quack, overall records are used in tiebreakers, so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I can't find that in the link, but I don't doubt it. I stand corrected and appologize to you and @Jalapeno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Only when the division title is on the line. 43 minutes ago, Quack 12 said: ** Note: Head-to-head tiebreaker is used only to determine division winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MussMan Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Orange said: According to quack, overall records are used in tiebreakers, so.... That is only the criteria used to show the standings on the Pac-12's website. It has nothing to do with actual tiebreakers. Not that it matters for 2nd place anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Quack 12 said: If only they played in the South. The league has Cal in the No. 2 spot, because: The official Pac-12 football standings are ordered highest to lowest in each division based on five criteria: Winning percentage in Pac-12 play Number of wins in Pac-12 play Overall winning percentage Number of overall wins Alphabetical order * Note: See the comprehensive explanation of multiple team tiebreakers used to determine who participates in the Pac-12 Football Championship Game. ** Note: Head-to-head tiebreaker is used only to determine division winners. The Pac-12 only decides who wins the division, they make no distinction between second and third. Cal and UW and OSU are tied and listed in alphabetical order. Fixt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Except that overall winning percentage DOES count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, Orange said: The Pac-12 only decides who wins the division, they make no distinction between second and third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 O.K., here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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