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Chris Paul to the Rockets.  What a start to the season with a Woj Bomb.

 

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people keep wondering if two guys who are at their best while dominating the ball can coexist, but i'm wondering more how chris paul fits into d'antoni's system. houston had a bunch of young guns who could run up and down the floor to make it all work last year, now a bunch of them are gone and halfcourt afficianado chris paul has taken their place.

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The better story is they want to add Melo to that mix. Now that Kobe is gone, there isn't a more ball dominate player in the NBA, which goes against everything D'Antoni believes and why it didn't work once before.

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interesting: paul george to OKC for oladipo and sabonis. espn reporting boston offered 3 firsts, crowder, and another starter.

i'm really liking the young turner/leaf/sabonis/anigbogu pacer frontcourt.

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I think Boston lowballed the Pavers, whixh means I doubt that was the offer, but who knows

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wolves are going to roll into next season with teague-butler-wiggins-KAT-dieng. not bad.

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Swapping out Rubio for Teague was brilliant.  Teague has already shown he can be a very good facilitator on a talented team.  He can't get his own shot but he can run a team and throw lobs.  

 

Also, the Warriors signed curry to the supermax, paying him an NBA record 40.25 mil per year.  This means that the 3 highest paid players in their sport are all in California (Curry, Kershaw, Carr) and two of them are in Oakland.  California income tax wins again! 

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Danny Ainge is either terrified of "losing" a trade or just thinking everyone is going to give him the T-Wolves Garnett trade deal and is holding out.

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9 hours ago, MrBug708 said:

Danny Ainge is either terrified of "losing" a trade or just thinking everyone is going to give him the T-Wolves Garnett trade deal and is holding out.

Reports are that he offered 4 1st rounders but Indiana wanted him out of the east.  What can you do?

 

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That's a lot for a guy you might not be convinced resigns.

 

Why would Indiana care if he's in the east or not though?

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western conference playoff hopefuls got a boost by george hill signing with the kings over denver. the nuggets, the 9th seed last year and just added paul milsap, would have been VERY good with hill at point.

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lots of hayward drama this afternoon. he probably DID commit to danny ainge but there is a lot of confusion right now...

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Glad to see the Nuggets making a move in free agency after falling flat last summer.

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if i'm cleveland i'm kidnapping jamal crawford the moment he's released and signing him before any other team can talk to him.

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alright after most of the big moves have been made i see it like this:

west

tier 1 golden state

tier 2 san antonio, houston, oklahoma city

tier 3 nuggets, blazers, clippers, wolves, grizzlies (no specific order)

tier 4 jazz, pelicans, mavs, lakers, kings, suns (no specific order)

barring two major gsw injuries, there will be no one else jumping into tier 1, even if the spurs have one of their 65-win seasons. but tier 2 looks a lot stronger next year than last year. the spurs are still a viable 60-win threat, i have questions about chris paul joining the d'antoni system BUT it's also hard to imagine a team adding chris paul and getting worse -- you know? they'll figure it out. and paul george may not be KD but he's ridiculously good and he should fit in very well next to westbrook. i don't think okc will be quite as good as when the KD/westbrook train was when healthy, but that's a good one-year experiment presti has put together.

tier 3 teams all look solid to the point where the 8th seed should finish a lot closer to 50 wins that last year's 8th seed (portland, 41-41), and you'll notice that there are 9 teams in the top 3 tiers. a very good western team is going to be left out of the playoffs this year. the blazers are still the second youngest team in the nba despite returning a core that's played together for two full seasons now, plus they were something like 12-3 with nurkic last year. they're in cap hell and don't really have the means to truly compete with the elite, but hopefully continuity matters. the clippers are going to take a big step backwards whereas the wolves should finally take a step forward with teague and butler joining wiggins and anthony-towns. hard not to like the milsap/jokic frontcourt in denver, and the grizz still have conley and gasol. 

tier 4, i could be off on the jazz, gobert is still one of the better big men in the nba, but rubio is a big step down from hill and no one they may be able to bring back from boston in the proposed sign and trade is going to be in hayward's stratosphere. i can make cases for the pelicans, mavs, and suns being better than last year but i just don't see the playoffs for any of them. lakers are going to suck for one more year, get another high lotto pick, then sign george and probably another star.

east

tier 1 boston, cleveland

tier 2 raptors, wizards, bucks

tier 3 hawks, sixers, heat, pistons, hornets

tier 4 knicks, nets, pacers, bulls, magic

while the east can at least provide a little intrigue regarding its eventual champion, it's also a 2-team conference and everything prior to the ECF is going to be utterly pointless. i think boston can absolutely knock off the cavs this year; cleveland just seems wobbly to me. maybe i buy into the lebron-is-looking-to-leave conspiracy. don't know. but the rest of the conference is hot garbage, comparatively. 

 

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Lakers don't have a high lottery pick left as this next first is no longer protected 

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oh, gotcha. in that case, they'll have lonzo and hopefully a maturing ingram and clarkson to run alongside george. 

i know westbrook to LA is the hot rumor but if lonzo is as advertised, do you think magic would make a run at demarcus cousins? lonzo/george/cousins?

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Your Atlanta Hawks


PG: Dennis Schroder / Malcolm Delaney
SG: Kent Bazemore / Marco Bellineli / Jamal Crawford / Deandre Bembry (/SF)
SF: Taurean Prince
PF: John Collins
C: Miles Plumlee / Diamond Stone
Unsigned FA's: Ersan Ilyasova (PF), Mike Muscala (C/PF), Kris Humpries (PF/C), Thabo Sefolosha (SF)
Unsigned rookies: Tyler Dorsey (SG) / Alpha Kaba

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schroder's legit. if we could re-do that historically awful 2013 draft, he'd go top five along with antetokounmpo (he went 15th!! in that draft!!), cj mccollum, ******n adams, and rudy gobert. 

tyler dorsey just inked a 2-year fully guaranteed deal. i don't think there's any way crawford isn't going to demand a release (even going as far as restructuring to do so), two months ago i didn't think dorsey would get drafted now he may be in-line for playing time. on a wretched team, yes.

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Hardaway Jr was offered a nice deal, which goes to show your last name means something. Kinda like Austin Rivers, Trayce Thompson et al

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19974682/nba-board-governors-approves-rule-drop-outs-18-14-per-game

Four less timeouts per game in the NBA for this upcoming season and a limit of two timeouts in the last two minutes of a game.

Timeouts are 75 seconds instead of the full 90 seconds and 20 second timeout.

Two timeouts in OT.

And did anyone know that the season is starting earlier than usual?

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yes, and that's the most important one. fewer back-to-back's and fewer 4-in-5-days will be good. 

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sounds like melo to the rockets is super close, and the blazers are the hang up. 

first, i think the paul/harden/melo "super" team is kind of silly. it's so hard to picture them playing together. now that harden will be playing w/ a real point guard i picture him reverting to the old harden, which means the rockets now have the nba's two biggest black holes in their starting five. i dunno, man.

second, new york covets moe harkless and seems to be putting pressure on houston to make it work (since they covet melo). houston is offering ryan anderson (3 yrs/60 mil) who matches exactly what portland would be sending out (harkless/leonard, 3 yrs/60 mil) but portland wants to shed salary in this deal and is holding the whole thing up. the 3 teams are looking for a fourth to get involved to make take one of portland's bad contracts. the only way i'd take ryan anderson back in a deal is if we could give up leonard or harkless and one of crabbe or turner. and i actually like harkless, it's too bad our dumb GM managed the cap so poorly last summer that we have to give up a nice young player to get out of luxury tax hell that he created. 

 

 

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