PAC MAN Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Quack 12 said: I don't think you can pin this on the league and the TV deal. According to the Equity in Athletics website, MSU's revenue from football was around $77.9M in 2018-2019, compared to CU's $45M. OTOH, Oregon's revenue was over $70M, and UO has a smaller student body than either CU or MSU (and yeah, it also has a sugar daddy.) As mentioned earlier, I just don't think CU is all that committed to football. CU had a nearly $100M athletics budget so affording a decent pay raise from Tucker was doable. The problem? Tucker's agent didn't give CU a chance to counter the offer that MSU offered Tucker. Throw agents into the mix of those matters. If CU wasn't committed to football, Rick George wouldn't have resigned his executive position with the MLB's Texas Rangers to come to Boulder. Nor would CU have pumped about $200M into facilities. It's easy to question whether anyone's school is committed to a sport due to apathetic administration. When it comes to UO, they can't just say no to Uncle Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PAC MAN Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 The coach before Tad Boyle made a similar move that Mel Tucker did which led to the arrival of Tad Boyle. That has turned out great for CU fans. If that means CU gets their Kirk Frenetz, good & consistent but not great, I'd be a happy man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 13 hours ago, MrBug708 said: EB has earned a shot at a HC spot in the pros. Or HC spot for the Buffs. He's coming off a Super Bowl Championship for the Chiefs and being associated with the name of Patrick Mahomes couldn't make it any easier to walk into a recruit's living room. CU has a nice core of young RBs and EB coached Adrian Peterson and Jammal Charles to solid careers in the NFL. What's not to like about that? The question is who will his coordinators be? He can certainly bring some KC Chiefs offense concepts to Boulder as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Jalapeno said: CU had a nearly $100M athletics budget so affording a decent pay raise from Tucker was doable. The problem? Tucker's agent didn't give CU a chance to counter the offer that MSU offered Tucker. 6 hours ago, Jalapeno said: so your argument is that Larry Scott should do something so that CU has the chance to over-pay for an overrated coach too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Jalapeno said: When it comes to UO, they can't just say no to Uncle Phil. Why would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBuff Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Scscsc89 said: so your argument is that Larry Scott should do something so that CU has the chance to over-pay for a overrated coach too? No way CU should have ever matched this deal. While tucker could be really good, this is too much for an unknown. The only thing Larry Scott has to address is the disparity in payouts for the tv deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 48 minutes ago, CRBuff said: No way CU should have ever matched this deal. While tucker could be really good, this is too much for an unknown. Yes 48 minutes ago, CRBuff said: The only thing Larry Scott has to address is the disparity in payouts for the tv deals. fodder for a different thread but I'd love to hear your ideas on how you think he should do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRBuff Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Scscsc89 said: Yes fodder for a different thread but I'd love to hear your ideas on how you think he should do this. I’m aware not a lot can be done until 2024, but this will be huge. There have been a lot of bad bets (pac 12 network for instance) that have not paid off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row Z Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Possible CU coaching candidates, per the Athletic: Eric Bienemy; Vance Joseph; Ryan Walters; Ken Niumatalolo; Bryan Harsin; Troy Calhoun; Jim McElwain; Darrin Chiaverini; Butch Jones; Tim DeRuyter; Mark Helfrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, row Z said: Possible CU coaching candidates, per the Athletic: Eric Bienemy; Vance Joseph; Ryan Walters; Ken Niumatalolo; Bryan Harsin; Troy Calhoun; Jim McElwain; Darrin Chiaverini; Butch Jones; Tim DeRuyter; Mark Helfrich Bienemy: Tucker was hired for his recruiting and EB wouldn't be any different. Vance Joseph: I can't see this ending well like with the Broncos. Ryan Walters: Check back in 5-10 years. Navy Triple Option guy: I would be interested but I don't think CU will be going that way. Bryan Harsin: CU fans do not want to touch fake blue grass school ever again. Troy Calhoun: I think he's an AFA lifer. McElwain: Hope that NYPD cop doesn't dry hump Ralphie. Chiaverini: He earned a shot at the job with his recruiting. Butch Jones: Hiding behind a food cart does leave lasting memories. DeRuyter: How old is he again? Helfrich: He had a home in nearby Lyons. Not HC material tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 19 hours ago, MrBug708 said: EB has earned a shot at a HC spot in the pros. I agree 100%. But for whatever reason, I don't want to speculate, he can't get an interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 Wilner mentioned Sark too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scscsc89 Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Jalapeno said: DeRuyter: How old is he again? umm ... 57? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win2bfree Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Quack 12 said: Why would they? Because they are a public institution and not a fiefdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, RogueDuck said: I agree 100%. But for whatever reason, I don't want to speculate, he can't get an interview. I don’t think it’s just EB but the NFL in general has decided not to follow the Rooney rule as well as they did in the past. I do believe in diversity and I think we are drifting away from that in today’s political environment in this country. I’m just going by how I feel without looking at the facts. We can discuss in that on the politics board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row Z Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Jalapeno said: Bienemy: Tucker was hired for his recruiting and EB wouldn't be any different. Vance Joseph: I can't see this ending well like with the Broncos. Ryan Walters: Check back in 5-10 years. Navy Triple Option guy: I would be interested but I don't think CU will be going that way. Bryan Harsin: CU fans do not want to touch fake blue grass school ever again. Troy Calhoun: I think he's an AFA lifer. McElwain: Hope that NYPD cop doesn't dry hump Ralphie. Chiaverini: He earned a shot at the job with his recruiting. Butch Jones: Hiding behind a food cart does leave lasting memories. DeRuyter: How old is he again? Helfrich: He had a home in nearby Lyons. Not HC material tho. Driving a hard bargain, I see. Well, good for you. Its only the head coach of your favorite college football program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Jalapeno said: I don’t think it’s just EB but the NFL in general has decided not to follow the Rooney rule as well as they did in the past. I do believe in diversity and I think we are drifting away from that in today’s political environment in this country. I’m just going by how I feel without looking at the facts. We can discuss in that on the politics board. That, and the fact Reed calls the plays in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quack 12 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 16 hours ago, win2bfree said: Because they are a public institution and not a fiefdom. Do you know how much of its funding UO receives from the State of Oregon? It's about five percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azgreg Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I think this completes our staff now. New running backs coach from BYU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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