KUGRDON Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/96093/pac-12-blogs-all-league-team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hail Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'll take the coaches opinions over the writers thank you very much. If it's any consolation, Falk can watch Goff's career progress in the NFL on Sunday's as he makes millions of dollars while Falk sells insurance or something. Another successful Cal alum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 Yeah, the writers are going to have a WSU bias. lol We already know the coaches have a bias against "system" players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hail Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Yeah, the writers are going to have a WSU bias. lol We already know the coaches have a bias against "system" players. You incorrectly assumed the merits of my argument. If the writers knew as much about football as the coaches, they would be the ones making millions of dollars. It's that simple. Thus, I trust the coaches. You are free to speculate all you please about bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't have to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hail Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't have to speculate. Looks like we're done here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC MAN Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Goff is overrated IMO. There were quite the hype about him before the season and nary a peep about Falk. Oh the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't see how either can compare to Vernon Adams, honestly. His absence from the field was as much evidence of his worth as his presence on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBug708 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If that's the measure, Rosen is the MVP because we'd lose to Colorado this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 MVP has to be either Falk or Booker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 MVP has to be either Falk or Booker. How do you figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 With half a brain. That's all it takes for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 With half a brain. That's all it takes for that one Adams would have beat the cougs by 28. Faulk Couldn't hold his jock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 in other words, homerism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Just take a look at the percentage of total offense stats for Booker and Falk. WSU didn't have a freeman let alone a Griffin or even Benoit to go with Falk. Wilson was not that great of an addition to Booker. VAJ had lots of help. Since I just watched the WSU Oregon game again I'll point out that Faulk took the cougars to a touchdown drive in the last 1:44 of the first half and two scores in the final 5:44 of the fourth quarter tossing a touchdown pass with one second left, running for a touchdown in the first overtime and passing for a touchdown in the second overtime. This was but one of four fourth-quarter comeback drives for Falk. In addition, going into the Husky game WSU was number one in the nation in red zone scoring efficiency almost wholly attributable to Falk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydlck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Just take a look at the percentage of total offense stats for Booker and Falk. WSU didn't have a freeman let alone a Griffin or even Benoit to go with Falk. Wilson was not that great of an addition to Booker. VAJ had lots of help. Since I just watched the WSU Oregon game again I'll point out that Faulk took the cougars to a touchdown drive in the last 1:44 of the first half and two scores in the final 5:44 of the fourth quarter tossing a touchdown pass with one second left, running for a touchdown in the first overtime and passing for a touchdown in the second overtime. This was but one of four fourth-quarter comeback drives for Falk. In addition, going into the Husky game WSU was number one in the nation in red zone scoring efficiency almost wholly attributable to Falk. So you're saying the guy that gets to decide whether it's a run or a pass should be lauded for always calling his own number? Not impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUGRDON Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 It didn't work nearly so well for Connor Halliday. . .Or any other of the leach quarterbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glduck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Just take a look at the percentage of total offense stats for Booker and Falk. WSU didn't have a freeman let alone a Griffin or even Benoit to go with Falk. Wilson was not that great of an addition to Booker. VAJ had lots of help. let's say royce freeman did suit up for the cougs. does falk still throw at least 50 times a game? uh, yes. that's how leachball is set up. in lieu of a consistent ground game leach has his quarterbacks take half their attempts within 5 yards of the LOS or less, which spikes their completions, attempts, completion %, and, yes, total offense. it's a choice, but there's really not a whole lot of difference between a handoff that goes for 20 yards and a simple pass 2 yards beyond the LOS that a receiver can then slip through a tackle and gain 20 yards. Since I just watched the WSU Oregon game again I'll point out that Faulk took the cougars to a touchdown drive in the last 1:44 of the first half and two scores in the final 5:44 of the fourth quarter tossing a touchdown pass with one second left, running for a touchdown in the first overtime and passing for a touchdown in the second overtime. This was but one of four fourth-quarter comeback drives for Falk. In addition, going into the Husky game WSU was number one in the nation in red zone scoring efficiency almost wholly attributable to Falk. of course, if you just watched the oregon game, you also saw the cougs gain AT LEAST 100 yards on the ground those final two drives of regulation. you fucking gashed us. leach saw us dropping 8 and made the right call to go to the ground game. falk's 4th quarter comebacks are a nice stat. do they mean more than vernon adams playing well enough to take leads INTO the 4th quarter, and continue to make plays to keep said leads? do they mean more than christian mcafferey blowing games open with big plays time and again? or cal, who may have gone 2-10 without jared goff? falk (or booker) is only the "no-brainer" option if you happen to be a fan of one of those teams. honestly, since peyton bender managed to go 36/58 in his very first start against one of the pac-12's best defenses (36/58 would HAVE to be single game top 10 in completions and attempts at every other school in the pac-12 -- andrew luck and marcus mariota never completed 36 passes in a game, or chucked it 58 times), i'm pretty sure leach's plug-n-play system would still have found a qb capable of getting it bowl eligible. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickydlck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 It didn't work nearly so well for Connor Halliday. . .Or any other of the leach quarterbacks. Hate to break it to you but last year Connor had only 400 less yards than Luke this year with 2+ less games so in that sense it seemed to work out for Connor. Unless you mean it didn't work out for him in the sense that leach system qb's seem to get hurt alot, then no it didn't work out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueDuck Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'd take McCaffery over Falk everyday of the week for mvp, and as a player. So would every other coach in the conference outside of Pullman. I could make a reasonable argument why Charles Nelson should be a mvp candidate over Falk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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