2022 Pac 12 Football

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Bummer, another chance to find an actual coach for the comatose giant. 

[MrBug708]

Not that anyone is surprised, but the days are numbered for Karl

 

[PAC MAN]

Watching the CU-AFA game was all I needed to see how the Buffs are going to do this year.  No one wants to see a bad offense on a losing team like that.

Systematic changes are needed at CU if the Buffs are to see successful football again.  It sounds like CU's chancellor is retiring at year's end or something like that so there's hope for that but I have been hearing the same issues about CU before that chancellor assumed his position so I'm not too hopeful.  I'm probably done as a CU fan at this point.  Hope you all have a good life.

And yes Bug was right about Karl.

[Scscsc89]

It shows how far ASU has fallen that they fire their coach and no one mentions it here for 36 hours

[glduck]

ASU’s new coach is probably facing a postseason ban and a scholarship reduction. So let me just point the school in the only direction it can possibly go to remain competitive during their upcoming date with the NCAA: Deion Sanders. Go get Prime Time, ASU.

 

[Scscsc89]

[azgreg]

On 9/19/2022 at 9:20 AM, Scscsc89 said:

It shows how far ASU has fallen that they fire their coach and no one mentions it here for 36 hours

I posted about it yesterday.

 

[Scscsc89]

apologies — missed it

[Mano]

AP Top 25

 

RK	TEAM	REC	PTS	TREND
1	Georgia(55)	4-0	1565	-
2	Alabama(4)	4-0	1487	-
3	Ohio State(4)	4-0	1483	-
4	Michigan	4-0	1354	-
5	Clemson	4-0	1311	-
6	USC	4-0	1236	1
7	Kentucky	4-0	1127	1
8	Tennessee	4-0	1119	3
9	Oklahoma State	3-0	1081	-
10	NC State	4-0	920	2
11	Penn State	4-0	876	3
12	Utah	3-1	760	1
13	Oregon	3-1	727	2
14	Ole Miss	4-0	691	2
15	Washington	4-0	657	3
16	Baylor	3-1	550	1
17	Texas A&M	3-1	543	6
18	Oklahoma	3-1	529	12
19	BYU	3-1	482	-
20	Arkansas	3-1	457	10
21	Minnesota	4-0	288	NR
22	Wake Forest	3-1	265	1
23	Florida State	4-0	244	NR
24	Pittsburgh	3-1	209	-
25	Kansas State	3-1	166	NR

 

Complete Rankings

Others receiving votes: Kansas 125, Cincinnati 60, Florida 56, Washington State 31, Syracuse 22, Oregon State 16, Texas Tech 11, North Carolina 9, LSU 7, Tulane 3, UCLA 3, TCU 1

Dropped from rankings: Florida 20, Texas 22, Miami 25

[Mano]

AFCA Coaches Poll

 

RK	TEAM	REC	PTS	TREND
1	Georgia(34)	4-0	1563	-
2	Alabama(26)	4-0	1558	-
3	Ohio State(4)	4-0	1486	-
4	Michigan	4-0	1379	-
5	Clemson	4-0	1339	-
6	USC	4-0	1226	1
7	Oklahoma State	3-0	1176	1
8	Kentucky	4-0	1136	1
9	Tennessee	4-0	1077	3
10	NC State	4-0	1015	1
11	Ole Miss	4-0	864	2
12	Penn State	4-0	824	3
13	Utah	3-1	822	1
14	Baylor	3-1	638	3
15	Oregon	3-1	622	3
16	Oklahoma	3-1	601	10
17	Texas A&M	3-1	574	3
18	Washington	4-0	539	6
19	Arkansas	3-1	509	9
20	BYU	3-1	359	3
21	Wake Forest	3-1	352	5
22	Florida State	4-0	252	NR
23	Minnesota	4-0	238	NR
24	Pittsburgh	3-1	223	NR
25	Syracuse	4-0	74	NR

 

Complete Rankings

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 63, Kansas 59, Florida 49, Texas Tech 36, Kansas State 30, Texas 25, TCU 20, Michigan State 13, James Madison 11, Mississippi State 10, Air Force 8, Oregon State 7, UCLA 6, Washington State 4, LSU 4, Notre Dame 3, Iowa State 3, Maryland 2, Coastal Carolina 1

Dropped from rankings: Texas 19, Michigan State 21, Florida 22, Miami 25

[Mano]

Oregon State game has me really worried. Their defense looked great, and Utah likely without their best offensive weapon Brant Kuithe ( went down on Saturday with what looked like a knee injury, hoping he is not done for the year, but didn't look good ). I am hoping Utah's defense shows strong, but the fact that USC was only able to score 17 has me worried that Utah will struggle to score without their go to guy.

[Mano]

On 9/26/2022 at 10:26 AM, Mano said:

Oregon State game has me really worried. Their defense looked great, and Utah likely without their best offensive weapon Brant Kuithe ( went down on Saturday with what looked like a knee injury, hoping he is not done for the year, but didn't look good ). I am hoping Utah's defense shows strong, but the fact that USC was only able to score 17 has me worried that Utah will struggle to score without their go to guy.

 

They just verified at press conference that Kuithe is out for the season. Feel terrible for the kid, just heartbreaking.

[Scscsc89]

Playing the Beavs away from Corvallis has to be an advantage for you.  By all reports, Reser was rocking the other night which disrupted the USC offense

[Mano]

On 9/26/2022 at 11:11 AM, Scscsc89 said:

Playing the Beavs away from Corvallis has to be an advantage for you.  By all reports, Reser was rocking the other night which disrupted the USC offense

Agreed, playing at Rice Eccles will be an advantage for Utah, but the Beavers defense against USC looked legit. I am hoping Utah brings its "A" game. The Pac looks like it has more very good teams than it has in years.

[Orange]

OSU has a special relationship with playing USC tough at Reser.  I'm not sure that will transfer over to playing in SLC, where even some of the best Beaver defenses (2008) blow it.

OS had their chance to be ranked, and blew it.  Won't sniff that opportunity for 10 years, or until we get a decent QB, whichever comes first.

[Scscsc89]

Apology accepted 

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On 9/26/2022 at 12:11 PM, Scscsc89 said:

Playing the Beavs away from Corvallis has to be an advantage for you.  By all reports, Reser was rocking the other night which disrupted the USC offense

Which is crazy considering half the seats are gone atm. 

[Scscsc89]

Apparently the speaker system made up for it -- adding to the audio imbalance

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On 9/26/2022 at 8:16 PM, Scscsc89 said:

Apparently the speaker system made up for it -- adding to the audio imbalance

This probably should be looked into, not an OSU issue, but afaik the rule is that you can't play music/noise through the PA when/after teams have huddled, but nobody huddles anymore. 

[HLB]

On 9/26/2022 at 1:02 PM, Mano said:

The Pac looks like it has more very good teams than it has in years.

Agreed that there are more good teams at the top of the conference, but I'm hesitant to call them "very good" teams.  Utah did lose to Florida, who has lost to Kentucky and Tennessee, with games against LSU, Georgia, TXA&M and FSU remaining.

As a barometer of the PAC12's "very good teams", Utah lost to a Florida team that will lose at least five games on the season.  Washington State beat a Wisconsin team that was just drilled by Ohio State, in a 30-point loss that could have easily been 50.  Wisconsin doesn't have a daunting schedule and will lose at least three more.  Oregon was destroyed by Georgia, who could have easily put up 70-plus points, had Georgia not pulled the starters midway through the 3rd quarter.  Washington comfortably thumped Michigan State, who was easily defeated at home, by Minnesota, and who might struggle to become bowl eligible.  Cal lost to a ND team that looks to be fairly average.  Undefeated UCLA didn't play a P5 OOC opponent.  I expect USC to beat ND, although ND doesn't appear to be overly strong.  Oregon State didn't play a P5 OOC opponent.  Arizona lost to Mississippi State in OOC play.  ASU lost to OK State and EMU, in OOC play.  Colorado has lost to everyone, including three bad defeats against P5 OOC opponents.  And Stanford's only win is against an IVY league school, with P5 OOC losses to ND and BYU, yet to come.

Play within the conference is tighter, and at least 6 of the PAC12 teams are good, and present some entertaining and close games.  However, I think the OOC results show that the conference - while improved - has yet to show that they have a team that would fall into the "very good" category, who can compete with the top teams of CFB.  I believe USC has a chance to reach that level, with Lincoln Riley - a coach that knows what it takes to be at the level of today's upper crust - as their HC.

That being said, any matchup between Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State, USC and Utah will be some hard fought, exciting and enjoyable games to watch.  I'm not sold on UCLA, nor Cal, as being among this group.

It's going to be fun, to see how things are going to fall out between the six teams I mentioned.  I'm impressed with Oregon State (given their history to not perform well, but to now perform well) and I really like the play of Washington, and their QB.  Oregon fans will experience "Good Bo" and "Bad Bo", understand the frustrations that Auburn fans had with him, and why they wanted him to move on.  I think UW, USC and Utah will vie for the conference title.  Because of Lincoln Riley, I think USC will prevail and represent the PAC12 in the CFP .... Just my opinion.